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Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:37:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202004121042.03CAgZFl029863@sdf.org> <202004131206.03DC6lpA026230@sdf.org> <7332320f-4717-e42f-5098-45b7aade6df1@netfence.it> <202004140136.03E1aQ6A018930@sdf.org> <202004140454.03E4s0Yf008317@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: <202004140454.03E4s0Yf008317@sdf.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 23:36:48 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgrading 11.3 -> 12.1 [was Re: Radeon 5770, graphics/gpu-firmware-kmod, and graphics/drm-fbsd11.2-kmod] To: Scott Bennett Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 491Z4G1PNzz3C1l X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=lQu9AxSW; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2d) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.07 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; 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Or we've got some kind of false positive. > > > > > > > How new does binutils have to be? The last time a portmaster -a > run > > > updated it was on 25 February, though I have no idea when the time > before > > > that might have been. I.e., I can't say which version was installed by > > > 26 Nov. 2019. > > > > > That should be new enough, but you may need to turn the cross build knobs > > to build with 'external toolchain items'. Are you doing that? If not, > then > > I'll look into which ones you need. > > > Not that I know of. That has not been the standard procedure for > source- > based upgrades across major release changes as long as I've been a FreeBSD > user. > While you're looking into that, would you please find out if there is > anything special I will need to do about the boot loader phases in > upgrading? > Changes to the boot loaders caused me considerable grief a while back just > within 11-STABLE, and I'd like to be better prepared, rather than run into > similar problems again. > I'm trying to understand why this upgrade isn't working for you. It should be a no brainer easy thing based on what I know. The fact that it's not means there is something i don't know that's standing in the way. I'd like to know what that is. I'd also like to understand the boot loader thing better too. I didn't think anything we'd merged was a huge hassle. Maybe the two are related. Maybe there is some left over config that caused both? Maybe it's two different things. In either even, I'd like to understand... Warner > Scott >