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Date:      Tue, 18 Jun 2024 15:31:12 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com>
Cc:        Robert Clausecker <fuz@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <hackers@freebsd.org>, kargl@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Opportunities for numerical work on FreeBSD?
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On Tue, Jun 18, 2024, 3:27=E2=80=AFPM Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com> wro=
te:

> On 6/18/24 12:31, Robert Clausecker wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have here a talented maths student looking for a place to
> > complete her mandatory (unpaid) industry internship.
> >
> > She has a knack for numerical analysis, differential equations,
> > and writing floating point code.  I suggested that there might
> > be need for some improvement to the math code currently shipped
> > with FreeBSD as the old msun code, while very precise, is not
> > writted to take advantage of modern SIMD FPUs with FMA support
> > and could be improved considerably.
> >
> > Is there an interest for such or other numerical work on the
> > FreeBSD code base?  Would anybody be interested in supervising
> > such work?  If yes, I would try to connect the two of you.
> >
> > Yours,
> > Robert Clausecker
> >
>
> Coincidentally, I just came across a recent benchmark that might provide
> some hints about where to focus the efforts:
>
> https://www.phoronix.com/review/bsd-linux-threadripper-7980x



But stress-ng isn't a benchmark. It says so in it's docs. Also there are
several ifdef linux in the source to make it faster on linux.

I wouldn't waste my time on that garbage.

Warner

>
> --
> Life is a game.  Play hard.  Play fair.  Have fun.
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 18, 2024, 3:27=E2=80=AFPM Jason Bacon &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:bacon4000@gmail.com">bacon4000@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 6/18/24 12:31, Robert Clausecker =
wrote:<br>
&gt; Greetings,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I have here a talented maths student looking for a place to<br>
&gt; complete her mandatory (unpaid) industry internship.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; She has a knack for numerical analysis, differential equations,<br>
&gt; and writing floating point code.=C2=A0 I suggested that there might<br=
>
&gt; be need for some improvement to the math code currently shipped<br>
&gt; with FreeBSD as the old msun code, while very precise, is not<br>
&gt; writted to take advantage of modern SIMD FPUs with FMA support<br>
&gt; and could be improved considerably.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Is there an interest for such or other numerical work on the<br>
&gt; FreeBSD code base?=C2=A0 Would anybody be interested in supervising<br=
>
&gt; such work?=C2=A0 If yes, I would try to connect the two of you.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Yours,<br>
&gt; Robert Clausecker<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
Coincidentally, I just came across a recent benchmark that might provide <b=
r>
some hints about where to focus the efforts:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.phoronix.com/review/bsd-linux-threadripper-7980x" re=
l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.phoronix.com/revi=
ew/bsd-linux-threadripper-7980x</a></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But stress-ng is=
n&#39;t a benchmark. It says so in it&#39;s docs. Also there are several if=
def linux in the source to make it faster on linux.</div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I wouldn&#39;t waste my time on that garbage.</=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Warner</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
-- <br>
Life is a game.=C2=A0 Play hard.=C2=A0 Play fair.=C2=A0 Have fun.<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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