From owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Thu Jan 24 02:40:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E609314BD579 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 02:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from mail56c50.megamailservers.eu (mail236c50.megamailservers.eu [91.136.10.246]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D17937276B for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 02:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) X-Authenticated-User: ralf.mardorf@o2mail.de Received: from archlinux (x5d877e2b.dyn.telefonica.de [93.135.126.43]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail56c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id x0O21j7p002786 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 02:01:47 +0000 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 03:01:49 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GRSec is vital to Linux security Message-ID: <20190124030149.5692e195@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <28315c204184b212a3a60cdd393c3fd3@redchan.it> References: <28315c204184b212a3a60cdd393c3fd3@redchan.it> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B020B.5C491C8B.002F, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.3 cv=Oo5hNR3t c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=/MRw90aSLzcSSOzLNkI+QQ==:117 a=/MRw90aSLzcSSOzLNkI+QQ==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XS3HQ5M3f46GDQt3FjwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D17937276B X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net designates 91.136.10.246 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.14)[-0.135,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.136.10.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-chat@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.87)[-0.868,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.92)[0.923,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx4c52.megamailservers.eu,mx1c52.megamailservers.eu,mx2c52.megamailservers.eu,mx3c52.megamailservers.eu]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[alice-dsl.net]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[246.10.136.91.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9115, ipnet:91.136.0.0/17, country:GB]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.12)[ipnet: 91.136.0.0/17(-0.27), asn: 9115(-0.22), country: GB(-0.09)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[43.126.135.93.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 02:40:11 -0000 On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 22:28:45 +0000, linuxgpletc@redchan.it wrote: >This man speaks the truth. It doesn't matter, if it is the truth or not. Whining doesn't solve anything. Security isn't mine concern. I'm using computers to make music, this means that I need to use Linux to get rid of Apple issues and I need to use Apple to get rid of Linux issues. I even need to run Windows in a VM, to run software to program my guitar synth that isn't available for Apple and is buggy for Linux. If I would have more money, I would buy stand-alone gear and pay for the large room that is needed to room the gear, IOW I wouldn't use an "empathy" computer at all to make music. However, this kind of "problems" are luxury problems. On this planet some people don't have clean water, clothes and not enough to eat. I seriously doubt that they care about security issues of computers connected to the Internet, or about my needs. They battle for their existence. If you still insist in continuing trolling, then please do it regarding something that is important. No one on this planet should die of hunger! If you would spam all the Linux and FreeBSD lists with topics about us using FreeBSD and/or Linux, while other people don't have access to drinkable water and we should be ashamed, I would have empathy even for whining.