From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 17:29:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AAB16AB9C; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3011143DA1; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:29:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from Anne (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14788; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:29:16 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060516111950.086e8d40@lariat.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:29:10 -0600 To: Colin Percival From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <446A0608.10608@freebsd.org> References: <200605160135.TAA04838@lariat.net> <57d710000605151942p2461338au561269fc5937aee7@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060515225038.08d72690@lariat.org> <446981CD.5000309@gmail.com> <4469C668.2060807@rerowe.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060516104907.08788ad8@lariat.org> <446A0608.10608@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.11 snapshots? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:29:40 -0000 Colin: We'd like to. But we need the servers we're building to outperform Linux in file and database operations, and they only do that under 4.11. Also, the 6.1 release engineering page showed some worrisome problems -- including such things as potential problems with the Intel "fxp" and "em" drivers (which we absolutely can't have). It's gone now, but while it was up it said that work on those issues was still in progress, that the fixes needed testing, and/or that they were being deferred to the next release. So, some of these machines will have to get 4.11. We can't be on the cutting edge all of the time when we're making production servers. In some cases, what we need is a tried-and-true version with bug fixes. --Brett Glass At 11:04 AM 5/16/2006, Colin Percival wrote: >If you absolutely must run FreeBSD 4.11, install the RELEASE and >then run FreeBSD Update. > >Personally, since FreeBSD 4.11 will reach its EoL about 8 months >from now, and the 4.x->[56].x upgrade path is non-trivial, I >recommend installing FreeBSD 6.1 instead. > >Colin Percival