From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 27 04:25:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765175FA for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f50.google.com (mail-ee0-f50.google.com [74.125.83.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07948FC0A for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f50.google.com with SMTP id b45so4592364eek.37 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:25:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=VKG+vg9KUezSUYC228m5+TDQriGY9GW4uHRoDKL8YeY=; b=CP/8d2qzpo5sMWgRvkEw26IHMlJ0Vvo+HpV2LFa1Mv363EgxL5oJLfDbFqyUZ/Hkmh Uavsrw5OH4GX3zyPrIo4zzDuzKLeh56iNV+BXZhPIgOw8BbdSUSCe6zrWV3322Q9v4BZ /LOssZMZ3Td2YOX7U3JN9RnmvQTw8Fl/XHIFW6lOLHyLCNGAaw7yWtnkzCU62Rw1+PMt NA0IHo7YvdemSZ9op5UNENB/hloZPs62KVUtxT7+TBwkezjXpn7KpfwgfJWmLqEu0Wn5 EIshjI//rkNRfpWcnLjDL4+T4/aETdET+mphpHYOAOrWQkg2O0LdtxOAEHUPWvhtViWF dZrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.194.199 with SMTP id m47mr74891904een.11.1356582301288; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.170.193 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:25:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121226192511.355407a9@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20121223181300.4c64820c@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121226111802.GA82100@server.rulingia.com> <20121226223332.U30575@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20121226192511.355407a9@X220.ovitrap.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:25:01 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: getting a laptop - take 2 From: Kevin Oberman To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Eitan Adler , Peter Jeremy , Ian Smith , mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:25:08 -0000 On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:37:34 +1100 (EST) > Ian Smith wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:18:02 +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: >> > >> > I have a T420s (running Linux for $work) and you can switch between >> > the integrated (Intel), nvidia & Optimus in the BIOS. FreeBSD >> > should support either of the first two options (though you'll lose >> > VTYs when you use KMS to support the Intel graphics). >> >> Is this particular bug/regression being worked on, do you know? It's >> seeming to be longstanding. Does it only affect (some particular?) >> Intel graphics chips/drivers? >> > in Microsoft's word: this is a feature. > > In our words: the work on KMS does not include the VTs. It might will > come back in the future, it might not. Irony, the VTs are there, there > is just no output visible. The KMS support in FreeBSD was written by kib@ under a contract from the FreeBSD Foundation. That contract did not all for support of console mode and kib stated quite clearly, before KMS was added to FreeBSD, that he had no interest in working on this, but that he hoped that someone else would step up to write it. I seem to recall that he might have offered some pointers for any potential volunteers, but I may be thinking of Radeon KMS support. In any case, it is not a bug, but simply a capability FreeBSD currently lacks. Volunteers are always appreciated! -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com