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Date:      Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:25:01 -0800
From:      Kevin Oberman <kob6558@gmail.com>
To:        Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>
Cc:        Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com>, Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>, mobile@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: getting a laptop - take 2
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On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Erich Dollansky
<erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:37:34 +1100 (EST)
> Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:18:02 +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
>>  >
>>  > I have a T420s (running Linux for $work) and you can switch between
>>  > the integrated (Intel), nvidia & Optimus in the BIOS.  FreeBSD
>>  > should support either of the first two options (though you'll lose
>>  > VTYs when you use KMS to support the Intel graphics).
>>
>> Is this particular bug/regression being worked on, do you know?  It's
>> seeming to be longstanding.  Does it only affect (some particular?)
>> Intel graphics chips/drivers?
>>
> in Microsoft's word: this is a feature.
>
> In our words: the work on KMS does not include the VTs. It might will
> come back in the future, it might not. Irony, the VTs are there, there
> is just no output visible.

The KMS support in FreeBSD was written by kib@ under a contract from
the FreeBSD Foundation. That contract did not all for support of
console mode and kib stated quite clearly, before KMS was added to
FreeBSD, that he had no interest in working on this, but that he hoped
that someone else would step up to write it. I seem to recall that he
might have offered some pointers for any potential volunteers, but I
may be thinking of Radeon KMS support.

In any case, it is not a bug, but simply a capability FreeBSD
currently lacks. Volunteers are always appreciated!
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com



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