From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun May 13 6:12:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nwlynx.network-lynx.net (nwlynx.network-lynx.net [63.122.185.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1068F37B423; Sun, 13 May 2001 06:12:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Received: from Silver-Lynx.com (doze-1.network-lynx.net [63.122.185.106]) by nwlynx.network-lynx.net (8.11.1/8.9.3/Who.Cares) with ESMTP id f4DDB0x19122; Sun, 13 May 2001 07:11:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Message-ID: <3AFE87BF.E2A53BC0@Silver-Lynx.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 07:10:23 -0600 From: Don Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Young Cc: Stefan Parvu , Kris Kennaway , Rahul Siddharthan , Kathy Quinlan , Sue Blake , N6REJ , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm leaving References: <016d01c0dba9$62e67400$0300a8c0@oracle> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think the default install works very well, and there is a 'desktop config' option in sysinstall. I don't think it should include either KDE or gnome, though. My personal preferences are fvwm (1.24, NOT 2.0; the config file is easier to alter) and windowmaker. Both KDE and gnome are complex, moving targets that don't always install. Each has dozens of dependencies. One thing I would do is to add lynx to the base install so that the HTML docs option in sysinstall no longer requires a package add. At the very least, we need to ensure that lynx is always on the first CD, so it can be found without errors. GUI would be a lot easier if we had better video card probes, but that's always going to be another very fast-moving target. I think the present system of /stand/sysinstall works well except for a very few problems: * Newbie users need a clue as to WHICH CD each package is on. I think adding one screen that shows the locations of the entire package collection in a given release would be very appropriate. * Add lynx, as I said above. * remove gnome and KDE from the desktop config or separate them into a distinct category with clear warnings. On a different note, one more: Add 4.x-STABLE tags to the CVSup repositories so we don't have to back out to OPTIONS to install packages after we've started tracking STABLE. -- Don Wilde http://www.Silver-Lynx.com Silver Lynx Embedded Microsystems Architects 2218 Southern Bl. Ste. 12 Rio Rancho, NM 87124 505-891-4175 FAX 891-4185 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message