From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 15:06:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6515416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:06:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web14101.mail.yahoo.com (web14101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A27843D53 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:06:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from k_greenwood1@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040614150600.83311.qmail@web14101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.105.201.44] by web14101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:06:00 PDT Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:06:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Greenwood" To: Edward Hendrie , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:06:14 -0000 Please realize that I am not an official representative of FreeBSD, nor any organization associated to it. --- Edward Hendrie wrote: > Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? Daemon... > From a marketing perspective, Blasphemy... > you are shooting yourselves in the > foot. There are many people > of various religious backgrounds who will be > dissuaded from trying FreeBSD > because they have religious objections to a product > that is promoted by a > devil. Again... daemon. As well they may, that type of individual is not the "target demographic". FreeBSD is typically a *nix type OS that "makes an ideal Internet or Intranet server". If a person will make a critical judgement on their OS not by quality of code and system stability, but by what animated mascot is on a website, frankly (and I mean this in the kindest, most pleasant manner, also NOT a representative of FreeBSD) I don't feel that the FreeBSD community wants/needs such an individual. > You may think that is a small issue, but when > you are trying to create > market awareness you need a mascot that evokes > simplicity and goodwill, not > one that evokes evil and deception. Once again, marketing awareness is not necessarily the primary goal. The gifted individuals (whom I hold in the utmost reverance) who actually code the OS, and make a solid, stable OS for us mear leaches who benifit from their good will. If you wish to influence the community, become a committer, get into the core group, and then you will be in a powerful position to voice your concerns. Shouldn't take too long I expect. Again... a daemon (day-mon) (pre-Christian influence) is intended as follows (from dictionary.com). A spirit, or immaterial being, holding a middle place between men and deities in pagan mythology. A spirit running errands/a program carrying out commands. No "evil and deception" intended. > Look at how MSN is marketing its ISP. They use > characters dressed in > harmless butterfly costumes. Harmless? I think not! http://www4.tomshardware.com/business/20030110/ces2003_day1-03.html http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20021025.html > Linux, has done the same with its pudgy cute > penguin. You might want to rethink your mascot. Yes, Tux is cute. As is beastie... it's all a matter of personal preference. Cuteness, as is beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Here's a suggestion. I'm sure the OpenBSD (www.openbsd.org) mailing list would love to hear from you. Their mascot is a cute little, non-offensive blowfish. What could go wrong there? > Edward Hendrie Note: the previous paragraph I typed in jest. Stereotypically, the OpenBSD mailing list tends to be somewhat hostile to off topic subjects, brought about by newbies such as myself. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/