From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 29 11:37:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26730 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26689; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:37:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29480; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:37:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA28435; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:37:11 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:37:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199807291837.MAA28435@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The future of the bt848 driver? (FW: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail) In-Reply-To: References: <199807291804.MAA28055@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ Reduced the CC list way down ] [ Conspiracy theories abound ... ] > Damn, I watch too much X-files :) No kidding. I should have kept my mouth shut in the first place, but my intent wasn't to slam core, or the core members in general. My intent was to state my take on what happended with Amancio. Lord nows I've had my beefs with him (I've got email to prove it..), but I don't like the attitude that I perceive a few core members portray. Does this mean I think they haven't worked their butts off for FreeBSD? Of course not, but there are alot of people who work as hard as they do but don't get 'core' recognition, nor do most of the core people 'justify' their actions by using the 'core' club. Bad code/decisions aren't justified by being a core member, and neither is the inability to work with others. Being a core members means that they have a *responsibility* to make FreeBSD better, and not to lower themselves to pushing their weight around. Heck, if I were to venture a guess, I'd say that John left because he couldn't work with the other members of core, for whatever reason. That's a good reason to leave the core (it was mine), and I've never regretted it. I took a different tact than John though, and I'm still involved in FreeBSD and make changes (much to the chagrin of certain folks), but I don't try and let it bother me. But, because I'm not a core member neither do I have the responisibility of *having* to do work on FreeBSD, so I can go fishing whenever I feel like it, including just before and during a release. :) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message