From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 26 15:19:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98917106566B for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234278FC08 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so720459ewy.13 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zyz9sFhUWHHs8/hbfKx0P/5pre5GQLgSz5B6F1YiKH8=; b=VrfiAAbGUHNlsoimN49uOQMCsUEZqIxf4nk0c8xqfN992tIowBmevH4volve9H55/z qxkd5A1QGJOAs59b5rhHB/Csb9/Hp6ffabfBVjlFgVXFvCnObs8es3qFhCBD+cJ77ojZ 7285Nq1gf78HF7QUJmJgRhpe3OSBrhpANYVdE= Received: by 10.14.14.165 with SMTP id d37mr2248064eed.100.1311693569983; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.101.2] (254.166.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.166.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t48sm436538eea.14.2011.07.26.08.19.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:19:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Michal Varga To: Jerome Herman In-Reply-To: <4E2ECEFE.5030302@dichotomia.fr> References: <4E2E9F24.1040108@dichotomia.fr> <1311681539.1799.54.camel@xenon> <4E2ECEFE.5030302@dichotomia.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Stonehenge Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:19:25 +0200 Message-ID: <1311693565.1799.81.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making world but no kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:19:31 -0000 On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 16:28 +0200, Jerome Herman wrote: > > PS: Whatever that means, please don't get your sources through > > "sysinstall", that monster shouldn't even be present in a seriously > > maintained FreeBSD installation. Get your sources "the proper way" with > > csup: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > > > (note - "csup", not "cvsup", it's explained on the page in detail) > > Well since I am not upgrading, but just making sure things are where > they should be I figured that sysinstall was OK for the job. > Any problems with sysinstall ? I have been quite happy with it in the > 10+ years I have been using FreeBSD. > Well, that depends. Probably every single time I've seen someone touching sysinstal in a post-install environment, that OS was instantly rendered as much as good for a complete reinstall. It's just "one of those things" that shouldn't be present in any rescue scenario. Anyway - I can't comment on the specific procedure you're going to employ through sysinstall as I haven't even physically seen that thing for years (and as far as I know, it has been finally nuked from orbit for the upcoming FreeBSD 9 release), but it wasn't even being actively developed for those past 10 years you mention (I might be exaggerating a bit, but it has been a well known fact for years that sysinstall is an unmaintained rotting mess, which in turn recently led to it being finally replaced). Using csup was just an advice to make yourself perfectly sure about the outcome. It's very easy to point your supfile to - *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_2 (that's the vanilla release I understand you need to rebuild) - and be 100% sure about what's going to happen and what sources you're going to get. Upgrading or not, that plays no role in this scenario, as csup is just a way of getting a specific source tree, no matter how you're going to use it later. Basically, I wouldn't trust sysinstall with installing FreeBSD for a start, and surely not with a recovery procedure where you have exactly 0 tries left in case you fail. So I'm just pointing that out. m. -- Michal Varga, Stonehenge (Gmail account)