From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 11:34:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929281065673 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E49B8FC19 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so699298rvf.43 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:34:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=ZzQo+mwFijJvsJBAaq4dQpJEV5UXa5kV7R5lbsFjTTg=; b=pQDRfjoJjlvNjtT3k4h23fjvKI/0pJRqx/BrstVtJ8RUaWKIOGm0L1YuoD5NP55Bdl WeewmpDqHJqUvjmpVflZZkJYYZuOt1skEf9yXyq0o17K4Bl3kLv/jlGX2aprZiXW+XNt 2OfRKy5jNGz8uix2KZK5RjpJlrg0CxgIdEPhs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ogQGK1mz1waqCUuUmGJ+tUa0SyZNVCq9BmJe13JnkAD1Ik2sY87sf0d+UyFMUPCuwj ErbM9iRt4EsmD8nmTZyDLZ6nT2hK3kbbngYsUp3nK0togsrcuWl/w38xvLs+8wuoCKoH gl1G+nFmehO13kIMakYb+l2cRScpznKOZlP3Q= Received: by 10.140.203.9 with SMTP id a9mr727982rvg.288.1212665659204; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.70.11 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 04:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:34:19 +0800 From: "Adrian Chadd" Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com To: "Jo Rhett" In-Reply-To: <1A050712-3D0F-4263-A9F8-EE4AD042486E@netconsonance.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <4846D849.2090005@FreeBSD.org> <20080604204325.GD4701@lava.net> <20080604234532.GA89656@k7.mavetju> <458FE12C-AE4D-48F9-8193-4663079CEEF8@netconsonance.com> <84EBEA5D3A1F47E79E8E12C4CF4D0314@multiplay.co.uk> <7B8FD1A1E7DA49DFA68252BF9C74AE6F@multiplay.co.uk> <1A050712-3D0F-4263-A9F8-EE4AD042486E@netconsonance.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4cb759dd56f3e909 Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:34:19 -0000 2008/6/5 Jo Rhett : > > The bugs in question are *not* replicable in 6.2, and each of the bug > reports has said so. > > This is the major point of concern for us. What happened between 6.2 and > 6.3 to break so many drivers? > If its of major concern for you, then allocate some man hours, grab the /usr/src/sys diffs between RELENG_6_2_0_RELEASE and RELENG_6_3_0_RELEASE. The others on the list have stated over and over again that they haven't seen any issues and would like to know precisely what they are. The diff between 6.2 and 6.3 /usr/src/sys is ~ 440,000 lines in total. I can put the diff online for you if you'd like. If stability is your main concern then you could throw some resources at fixing 6.3 or throw some resources at backporting security fixes to 6.2. I'm sure noone has an agenda to squish the FreeBSD version you're using for any reason other than there aren't enough people volunteering / being paid to work on back-porting security fixes. 2c, Adrian -- Adrian Chadd - adrian@freebsd.org