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From: Victor Sudakov <sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru>
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Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: Problem with default ACLs and mask
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Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
> >>>>Why is the write bit of the mask reset when removing write perms for
> >>>>group? Is this really intended? 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Yes, it is intended, whether it was a good idea or not.
> > 
> > 
> > [dd]
> > 
> > 
> >>Very sad :-( It really seems to be impossible to implment something like
> >>a "Group Manager" enabling me to delegate priviliges for a group of
> >>users to some non-root person.
> > 
> > 
> > What OS allows you to do it?
> > 
> I have done such things with OpenVMS. Dunno how much control
> Windows/NTFS allows.

Doesn't OpenVMS also have the concept of default ACLs on directories?
How is the matter handled there?

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Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
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