From owner-freebsd-toolchain@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 17:54:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F3B7370 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com (mail-pa0-f43.google.com [209.85.220.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21A3D33C for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id kx10so14517947pab.16 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:54:18 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=ATpPqOROuOHfF6UjwzhY++CAzUELrX3O1JLGt57SKiU=; b=bZ2EsGyFgivLnJ8xIku8ShlPX8t9HyO5+lyEKWgMXO5oNEb+4C07Ij6R0fNzAMo0eH RTynS1/SLrpwbraeTgcZ0wiBkAhdoRleqDv0yBU1qPI/gRVQ80MlFuqYEimujYZP2eAJ 1j4QHZ0dWGINYtkb4zTVcnqAGwuECcRvC2FZPJmmxrMdbWWYSntwL12vtV0ARO0qdhly uNAoU272wDyuQRsEC2JGZGbn3gvoZLtYh9Xc0WZXXnWMP1Gl1cbpTlS776Mbdyvj7OHH jJNgjxO6E9H6FTvf/6dd6+6C2tC69r2BGaOox/gi79vFLYZ8NJQgjKpUdgJvTgZjODfM KQNA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnryznH9pfgF5pqF7Ze2VuvDI+pQYhwB6ag2rKUyAF/1E1EdtLCXmYxRMDtoVMxogLFv6Qb X-Received: by 10.68.200.68 with SMTP id jq4mr25627647pbc.30.1418752458639; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.64.27.55] ([69.53.236.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a13sm1572967pdm.44.2014.12.16.09.54.17 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:54:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: Migration to dynamic libs for llvm and clang Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3D19435D-6238-441E-84E7-92213129B96A"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b3 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:54:15 -0700 Message-Id: <15A17E31-22CA-4680-869B-3B7AC1E49741@bsdimp.com> References: <41F09A1C-01D6-42C9-B495-244DFC2B0364@FreeBSD.org> <74C51AC7-B7ED-4EBC-8506-1554C7CA31FF@FreeBSD.org> To: Ed Maste X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Cc: Dimitry Andric , freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Maintenance of FreeBSD's integrated toolchain List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:54:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_3D19435D-6238-441E-84E7-92213129B96A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Dec 16, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Ed Maste wrote: >=20 > Fair enough, I'd definitely like to see fewer build-time knobs over > time, not more. Until we stop using build-time knobs to control what=E2=80=99s in the = final image as a poor man=E2=80=99s packaging scheme, I expect the number of knobs = to continue to grow. In this case, however, it should be covered under the existing knobs though (or we should eliminate the knob :). Warner --Apple-Mail=_3D19435D-6238-441E-84E7-92213129B96A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUkHHHAAoJEGwc0Sh9sBEAlMgQAIls+vw6/DzThjXZXQmH3h4D HL5EAxOiXVcnCHm0H5HHtTM1Gu5OBasUea4PIFCorS2uJMv/XFsydwM+4WzaEK+c 8dJEo3sTS0zMG+KulitlPq8Fltk8IkEC+EQj2/uurFMO32/s2RB9s3Bx2+YvDfMF LKTGDClPmYPeoiwzO3qF82ZiAtihyWIt2Ef2W0Q6p1kA4HmX0Hz2/6HYStvZIf7C QXW0lrEjm/kD84xhjQbF71WTGoHSrVnqeLAcD3w5Tqr7HnqPlJHmEIQHEQI2iJRv zg8ERCKag/vq0AY3c6Vp00mQSFtugGHXx3DH01XbEqy7UErLar9L5UUcACMCsYCP k4KXXGUrQ6+ooDuV7sGJaI1aGOvNuvwsdHUrru7qryXEOrcvdaSciP1xIm/rBcRS r4qvA/8zeksjrc8bVfRgf4/hZuqL5TEGH7GNlGS66z4Jn4wxWDP8yncL5HQaa8jz 40FeaANBgiLiviuoK+dH6RqYgLmfJRNzkAFaUp/O9tkU72PzJ/+dC3sMzUr5jIhU pDJW2O+/KkS9UCVbvVwjaW4lgvPtn61Vh58jZbPjghwc98m+yKTJBn9Y0yB/eTBd ihzAZ8XHJm8SEZhnOcUsTYFFUIbHtiRF6VRwUoApPehFJcFidWJC2+Oki5LvUgbd CPuOCc4sK8CbePeIWqUw =xel+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_3D19435D-6238-441E-84E7-92213129B96A--