From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 01:18:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF5B16A41F for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:18:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from smtpout1.ywave.com (ycomradius.yelmtel.com [216.227.100.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E286643D45 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:18:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: (qmail 3146 invoked by uid 502); 19 Sep 2005 01:18:36 -0000 Received: from dsl13079.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@66.243.212.79) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Sep 2005 01:18:36 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 66.243.212.79 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl13079.ywave.com Message-ID: <432E11EB.2090601@ywave.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:18:35 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050908) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary W. Swearingen" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050918160808.4049.qmail@web35805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2qbr2q9jyi.r2q@mail.opusnet.com> In-Reply-To: <2qbr2q9jyi.r2q@mail.opusnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Install GRUB for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:18:37 -0000 Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > It starts out on a floppy file system. Then you either > just boot off the floppy, or you install it to the hard disk MBR, > other first-track sectors, and maybe your OS's root FS. I don't > recall if you need a menu.lst or not. That is, I don't know if > Grub can be installed only to the first track, or needs the > menu.lst in an FS; it seems like a bad requirement, if so. > In order for grub to work as a menu, it requires a stage 2 loader that resides somewhere on your hardrive outside of the MBR. It's my understanding that grub was too big to fit just in the MBR and that necessitated this arrangement. If you don't mind manually typing in commands such as root(hdx,x,x) and kernel /boot/loader then you don't need grub installed anywhere other than the MBR. Though the ufs stage 1.5 might cause problems with freebsd in that regard. I haven't tried grub without /some/ aspect of it installed to a freebsd partition. Later, Micah