From owner-cvs-ports Mon Jul 7 00:00:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA28955 for cvs-ports-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA28947; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA29505; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:29:09 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199707070659.QAA29505@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/tk41 Makefile ports/x11/tk41/files Makefile.lib md5 ports/x11/tk41/patches patch-ab patch-ac patch In-Reply-To: <199707070649.XAA12547@precipice.shockwave.com> from Paul Traina at "Jul 6, 97 11:49:06 pm" To: pst@shockwave.com (Paul Traina) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:29:09 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul Traina stands accused of saying: > > I think that you're showing very poor judgement here; this isn't a > move that should be undertaken precipitately, or by someone with your > recorded antipathy to Tcl in general. > > Myth control: > (a) I'm the person who brought tcl 7.4 and 7.5 in as ports > in the first place and had been faithfully maintaining it. > If I hated tcl, I certainly wouldn't have put so much time > into making it useful under freebsd. (chuckle) Then you've succeeded in confusing me greatly. My apologies for the slur. > (d) My intentions have been made quite clear to the entire core > team, and I will not remove tcl from the source distribution > until >rough< consensus has been reached. Ah. Remember that discussions with core aren't echoed to the remainder of the plebiscite; a few words to this effect would have done a lot for my blood pressure. Please note that I _do_ understand the issue regarding things like Tcl that mutate between versions; my stance is not that any particular version of Tcl/Perl/whatever is _the_ right one, merely that their status as basic system tools should be recognised and respected. > (Actually, that's a tiny lie -- PHK is demanding that I move perl4 out > to ports too, but I refused to do it until we nuke the perl system > utilities.) Argh! Now we have a secret fascist anti-bloat cabal. Argh! 8) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[