From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 27 21: 1:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEB437B7FC for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:01:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28066; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:01:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200006280401.VAA28066@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <000501bfe0ac$09d7d640$30c3193f@KenMays> from kmays at "Jun 27, 0 10:53:25 pm" To: kmays@email.msn.com (kmays) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:01:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: oberman@es.net, jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com, Bob.Boone@whro.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, kmays wrote: > My one issue is that its hard to tell what patch level or build anyone > is on when they report bugs or issues. That might be an idea. If > somebody was mentioning issues with a build, they could type a command > like 'verbuild' and it would display "FreeBSD v3.5, b062700p13" or > something like that. I suggested something like that about two years ago. I wanted a slight change to CVS commit such that /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh were a dynamic file that reflected the last commit made to the particular branch. Then the output of a "uname -r" could absolutely identify where in the continuum of updates a particular system was fetched. I also suggested that the hack to support this could be in cvsup, if touching CVS was too sacred. It was generally argued against. Check the archives if you'd like to examine the whole thread. Typical arguments pointed out that the user could cvsup just the kernel sources, which would not accurately reflect what he's running. Same argument for building user-land without building a kernel. But I still think the idea has merit. There should be some way of unequivocally stating "I'm running , and stuff is broken since when I was running ". This "I'm running -stable, cvsup'd sometime early in June" just doesn't cut it when trying to track down the source of a breakage. Wanna resurrect the flame wars? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message