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[148.251.53.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k195sm7740483wmd.7.2017.02.09.01.03.10 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 01:03:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:03:01 +0100 From: Kirill Ponomarev To: Franco Fichtner Cc: list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se, scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170209090301.GA36726@vein> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> <20170209084924.GA33265@vein> <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 09:03:14 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/09, Franco Fichtner wrote: >=20 > > On 9 Feb 2017, at 9:49 AM, Kirill Ponomarev wrote: > >=20 > > I don't understand all critics I see in this thread and in your mail, > > the fate of this project is all in your hands - try to contribute more, >=20 > I'm going to stop you right there. >=20 > That's not entirely true. Too few committers, substantial lack of > maintainer feedback, apparently no mentors to pick up newcomers, and > worst of all no newcomers. >=20 > Decide for yourself which of these are true and which are self-made > due to project management policies. I think I've dejavu, as I've been reading these statements since 15 years, and they've the same meaning and context, with the same argumentations and facts. The truth is - the dogs bark, but the caravan moves on. 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