From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 26 14:41:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B81C1065674; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mwi1.coffeenet.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039B98FC0C; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:41:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=E5T67DjmsomY2SlUB0w0uB5oMJegWBN9KkUQENdkhJ4=; b=NrR/vuaCiDoVsNd2KCDUZ3Ilstcd9uTcPPDaLYtsJ/SQVoBzsNGkVy/+5c5WP0kxzFMM34rNIj4JoXNkM5YA2rIzKubxieyPKNXLi9F+4WQooYcVrDXMk9GKDWwhyoW5; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by mwi1.coffeenet.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RqQVl-000FWQ-Dq; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:41:18 -0600 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1327588867-3242-3241/5/18; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:41:07 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: ports@freebsd.org, developers@freebsd.org References: <4F1B1C45.60902@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:41:07 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4F1B1C45.60902@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.60 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: so, FreeBSD on VMware is dead, right? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:41:19 -0000 FreeBSD on ESX here. Unfortunately our boss wants us to move to Citrix Xen even though they don't* support VMotion type features on FreeBSD because we've spent upwards of $50,000 USD in support/licensing on VMWare over the last year and it's been over a year without a fix to our crash bug directly related to bad behavior in their I/O virtualization layer. (ESX 4.1) So besides the few VMs that crash ~weekly, it runs great, and we have a ton of FreeBSD VMs which will never be changed to another OS. FreeBSD needs more love from VMWare, but I don't think it's dead.. However, it's rather disappointing to hear their techs say. "FreeBDS?[sic] What is that, some kind of Linux?" * Citrix NetScaler product is based on a fork of FreeBSD 6.x and Citrix offers a VM appliance that runs on Xen and does support their VMotion equivalent. Why they won't port or give us the Xen Tools that exist on that appliance is a mystery. I've considered taking their trial appliance, dissecting it, and trying to make it run on stock FreeBSD with compat6x and what other hacks are necessary, but I'm sure they have kernel modules that definitely will not work on 8.x or 9.x without being recompiled....