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From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <0C369B1C-C86C-4BB0-8237-3863B8BD4A1B@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 11:30:34 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Emmanuel Vadot , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2137C048-C9FD-4C4E-97EF-EFBC187437F5@yahoo.com> References: <0C369B1C-C86C-4BB0-8237-3863B8BD4A1B@yahoo.com> To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.63 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.63)[-0.633]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.68.205:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.68.205:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cVFDc71G1z3LpL [Just fising some wording.] On Sep 21, 2025, at 11:17, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 21, 2025, at 10:58, Lexi Winter wrote: > >> Mark Millard wrote in : >>> Looking at https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ shows >>> 9 files updated to have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg names. The rest still >>> have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a2.*.pkg names. The 9 FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg are: >> >> the timestamp on these packages indicate they were built after ALPHA2, >> but before newvers.sh was updated to ALPHA3. most likely, re@ ran the >> build several times before updating newvers.sh and did not clean the >> package repository in the interim. >> >> as long as the contents are correct, this has no impact on pkg, and it's >> expected that the base repository will have different package versions >> because we only update packages which actually changed. > > I'm confused by that statement. The below example is not > based on 15.0, but some material from prior main 16 > reporting related to FreeBSD-set-* vintages and content, > where some FreeBSD-set-* had not been updated, in this > case FreeBSD-set-src : > > deps: { > FreeBSD-src: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > }, > FreeBSD-src-sys: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > } > } > > If the FreeBSD-set-src involved for such is > older than the actual FreeBSD-src and > FreeBSD-src-sys distributed, the "version:" > fields are out of date, as they were in the > main 16 example in question. > > If they are ignored/unused and do not track > updates, why are they even present? Fixing that last statement to be explicit and adding another question: If the "version:" fields in a FreeBSD-set-* are ignored/unused and do not track update to members of the FreeBSD-set-* in question, then why are the "version:" fields even present in the data for the FreeBSD-set-* ? Are the "version:" fields being out of date and example of: contents are incorrect ? === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com