From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 27 23:13:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7724A2646F9 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmorp@schmorp.de) Received: from mail.nethype.de (mail.nethype.de [5.9.56.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48pyMJ1t81z4Ld1 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmorp@schmorp.de) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (helo=doom.schmorp.de) by mail.nethype.de with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jHy9v-0046bB-9q; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:13:03 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.1] (helo=cerebro.laendle) by doom.schmorp.de with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jHy9v-0008JO-3g; Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:13:03 +0000 Received: from root by cerebro.laendle with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jHy9v-000246-3N; Sat, 28 Mar 2020 00:13:03 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 00:13:03 +0100 From: Marc Lehmann To: "Christofer C. Bell" Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Ottavio Caruso Subject: Re: FreeBSD asking contributors to fix their opinions - is it official? 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Bell" wrote: > https://metacpan.org/changes/distribution/Canary-Stability as cited on > https://www.freshports.org/devel/p5-Canary-Stability/ figuring I'd see so= me > personal opinions. I found a lot of them. I strongly agree with the > adamw@freebsd.org that they don't belong in the port. (Some of the > extraneous "opinions" are citations of fact meant to call attention to yo= ur > concern about some issue that isn't germane to the port itself -- I'm > referring to these, as well). > It doesn't really pass the smell test when you claim to not know what he's > talking about. Your mail unfortunately adds nothing to this discussion - you produce more hot air, but again nothing of substance. It would be more productive if you pointed out specific examples of what you think does not belong into the module, and what, and why FreeBSD as a project asks this from upstream authors. I think it is unreasonable to expect me to guess what you complain about when you can't even bring up a single specific example (or even refuse, as adamw does). =46rom what I can see, you can't even agree with adamw on this - he seems to criticise the contents of the module, you seem to criticise the Changelog (which is what you quoted - but this is of course just a guess, as you won't tell). This is important - you seem to claim that personal opinions are not allowed in FreeBSD. Do you also complain about every GPL copy (which contains personal opinions)? Whats the reasoning behind this rather insane-looking rule? In any case, I think I ahd a reasonable question and I am trying to discuss it in a reasonable way. That's not something I can say of you: Your mail does nothing to solve the problem, it only adds more unsubstantiated claims. --=20 The choice of a Deliantra, the free code+content MORPG -----=3D=3D- _GNU_ http://www.deliantra.net ----=3D=3D-- _ generation ---=3D=3D---(_)__ __ ____ __ Marc Lehmann --=3D=3D---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / schmorp@schmorp.de -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\