From owner-freebsd-xen@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 28 23:18:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xen@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42C7106566B for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f172.google.com (mail-pz0-f172.google.com [209.85.222.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990E28FC15 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk2 with SMTP id 2so2346324pzk.28 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:18:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=8e+fSGseRYhP5ZLvtjpk4s/Bn6x5H7snS2nrPHguzZ8=; b=rmp50f6Q6l/KVHC+vr09R06YFTuzuPt3ThMte9q+LSUVTWo273bQZMSMw4VQPQuIJj b0v48etbbefLFJ87EJ2FTohx2eXyTtBsqQ7o6JUJSqInK1GmMPl/wKVK5W7b47CgH98r IiGheygeT9F6Hoanqab2DyvgKGotVOKkWGMoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=c+wXXyrBrtoSAx7GNfp3E2R7mLWdkoktXp8yL5YqsYuqnwylzHIDxHkEREerQKjpqY s5Vkb9t021XqhUneAGoHZWck3f0YCQYBkkEn3tDKBataxo0eghvenHY+7VqOCMUNDmTJ 0F3qGPHBlSo8GqAIWS4Qz13Jda2F8NoM6kh38= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.193.4 with SMTP id q4mr798241rvf.1.1251501488178; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:18:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <77abe410908211256g44dd20d8o9b50c20357e63a6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <77abe410908211256g44dd20d8o9b50c20357e63a6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:18:08 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 889645941d294c94 Message-ID: From: Adrian Chadd To: Florian Heigl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-xen@freebsd.org Subject: Re: finishing up the xen port - would funding help? X-BeenThere: freebsd-xen@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of the freebsd port to xen - implementation and usage List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:18:08 -0000 G'day, To everyone involved, including those I've already spoken to privately. I think the best thing you all can do is talk to the FreeBSD Foundation about your views and uses for FreeBSD/Xen. I'm sure the foundation would be interested in donations towards FreeBSD in general and I hope that enough interest -and- donations with a voiced interest in Xen will gently prod them into kicking the support into shape and then invest into keeping it up to date. Adrian 2009/8/22 Florian Heigl : > Hi, > for over 3 years we're now looking at a mostly-working, breaking, > half-working port, breaking, half-working of FreeBSD to xen. > personally I think this is a very sad state, especially considering how well > FreeBSD (-current, with patches) worked in Xen 2. > > I wonder if starting a fundraiser (like the ones initiated by rsync.net) > might help this problem. > I think we would have to scratch up enough for a month of kip's (or someone > else's) time to see everything addressed and the xen patches finally being > merged in a sane way like NetBSD did it. > > Assuming that most people do not very much care about their dom0 OS, but > strongly care for running FreeBSD (instead of Linux, NetBSD, Solaris > flavours) for their virtualized servers, it would be the best way to go to > make almost everyone happy. > > Please note that I don't represent a company but would still scratch up > money or donate some bunch of hardware to this end because I'm completely > sick of having to tell people (in #freebsd.de, in some forums and, worst of > all, even on trade fairs when helping at the FreeBSD booth) that "it used to > be working but right now it's not stable for production use, but it might > actually build right now" and point them at one of the above OS according to > their needs, when actually they'd just love FreeBSD. > > Honestly, I do not believe this state will *ever* get better without some > massive effort and I'm very much looking forward to some discussion about > this. It think the support should get -stable'd while the linux kids are > still trying to make ZFS work stable :) > > I'll scratch up $150 (or the same in hardware), so if a few more people and > 1-2 companies chime in it might be enough to make: > NO new features, just fix it and properly merge it into the amd64 and i386 > archs. > > a nice weekend to you all, > florian > > > > -- > 'Sie brauchen sich um Ihre Zukunft keine Gedanken zu machen' > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-xen@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-xen > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-xen-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >