From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 12:31:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC42116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:31:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC8043D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:31:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 2FE4A37E59; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:31:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.181]) by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C2537E48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:31:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BF6D937E45 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:31:05 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 4822 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Mar 2005 12:31:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:31:04 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Gert Cuykens , Frank Staals , Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: Frank Staals cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:31:09 -0000 On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:09:52PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:43:44 +0100, Frank Staals wrote: > > Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (Mar 24), Gert Cuykens said: > > Looking for a shell editor that can open two files at the same time on the > > same screen splitting the screen horizontal ? Please dont answer emac or vi > > they are not made for teletubies :( I like the ee or mc editor but i dont > > think mc editor can open two files at the same time/ Try editors/joe-devel > > (which should probably be renamed to plain editors/joe) Jep joe is realy > > cool, its my default text-editor and it can be used in a split-screen mode. > > > > you should probably get used to the commands you can use, first ctrl+ k > > seems a litle weird but when you get used to it it realy rules ( in fact > > when I'm working at school in word or notepad and I want to save my stuff I > > automatically do ctrl + k + d ) :D > > > > ctrl + k rules after you get used to it > > > > Good Luck > > > > Frank Staals > > > > Yep joe looks great. But i dont understand why they use ^K so much ? > What is the logic behind ^K what does K stand for ? I would understand > ^J on all the special joe key bindings but ^K ? The default keybindings in Joe are based on those used in WordStar which used ^K (as well as ^Q) for many commands, so it is mainly historical reasons. WordStar used to be very popular so many people are already familiar with those keybindings (either directly from WordStar, or from one of the many other programs that also used some variant of them.) I don't think K stands for anything really - I think it was chosen mainly because it was placed in a convenient position on the keyboard. The WordStar keybindings might not seem very logical at first glance, but ones fingers very quickly learn them. (Unlike e.g. the default keybindings in Emacs which are quite logical, but which I usually find difficult to remember.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se