From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 10 12:21:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06342 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06336 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA20237 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:21:42 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA04339 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:21:41 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA11174 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:08:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607101908.VAA11174@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Some recent changes to GENERIC To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:08:30 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607101655.JAA00383@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at "Jul 10, 96 09:55:34 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: > >. GENERIC is known to run on many installed machines, ... > Maybe I have a bad attitude, but... This is Unix. If they can't or > don't want to build their own kernel, they should be running Windows > or OS/2. A bad attitude. Because they don't even bother to ask you before using this kernel on their machines. :-) They simply do it, and i've got the impression that the GENERIC kernels are doing it quite fine for most of them. So while _we_ (the developers) believe nobody would even start without a customized kernel, _they_ (our ``customers'') prove us wrong by simply ignoring us. :-) Get me right, i'm not really arguing for keeping this legacy cruft. Let's face it, the average PeeCee doesn't need more than sio0 and sio1 plus lpt0 plus sc0 plus one disk controller (perhaps two for the inferior case of wdc) plus one ethernet adapter. For people who are running multi-port serial cards, or gateway machines with multiple ethernets, recompiling the kernel is most likely the very first step after the system booted off the hard disk for the first time. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)