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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:21:57 +0200 References: <202103310043.12V0hFqg023324@office.dignus.com> <6136F5CE-0E73-4A36-B3B0-CA17C8BEE9AA@unrelenting.technology> To: Greg V , freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, dan.kotowski@a9development.com, rivers@dignus.com In-Reply-To: <6136F5CE-0E73-4A36-B3B0-CA17C8BEE9AA@unrelenting.technology> Message-Id: <03D4DC97-1F65-4CF3-A85B-6744A401931D@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F9T622Rwlz3QZg X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[46.114.152.195:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:22:03 -0000 > Am 31.03.2021 um 14:18 schrieb Greg V : >=20 > On March 31, 2021 12:43:15 AM UTC, Thomas David Rivers = wrote: >> I'm wondering why the Mac M1 machines haven't been mentioned? >> (Like the newest MacMini...) >>=20 >> Would they not make a good ARM64 machine? >=20 > Currently only using virtualization. >=20 > Someone would have to make lots of drivers to run bare metal. OpenBSD = and NetBSD have some already, but I'm not aware of any efforts in = FreeBSD yet. >=20 > Apple hardware is *very* non-standard, they don't even use the GIC, = having a custom interrupt controller instead. well, I have mentioned M1 in post #9 of this long thread as the most = interesting =E2=80=A6.. really interesting : https://reviews.freebsd.org/R10:3a314eb5bb444ec019457e5aefaabb656fcb3d54 > Am 31.03.2021 um 00:52 schrieb Dan Kotowski = : >=20 > Yes, I'm currently swapping between a CACE AirPcap NX (otus) and a = Microchip LAN7800 EVB (muge) from = https://www.microchip.com/Developmenttools/ProductDetails/EVB-LAN7800. # > They're ugly but functional. lol, that made my day :-) Ha Ha =E2=80=A6 my whole desk is cluttered with all the ugly crap, but thanks to Apple, it looks impressive all in all :-) Regards K.