From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 14:11:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A78E16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:11:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F7043D3F for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:11:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3PEBGTj029159; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:11:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <426CFA51.3060003@centtech.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:25 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050325 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Danny Braniss References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/851/Sun Apr 24 20:19:30 2005 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial/ether console & ramblings X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:11:30 -0000 Danny Braniss wrote: > hi, > I was about to plunge in and 'try' to cleanup the serial console > stuff, when it downed on me that newer machines are arriving without serial > port! there goes that idea. So USB/serial dongle came to mind, might > work, but messy, FireWire is not universaly available. > So, why not serial over ethernet? IPMI 'was' to have solved > this, but it will (if at all) work on server class MB only, and im still > looking for a Unix Viewer. > > In my case, i have been using the serial console to debug stuff, but > being of the old school, i try to stay away from debuggers :-), so > printf and stack trace will do. > > So here are some of my quesions: > o - is there some standard? ok, refrase, are there some > standards? > o - any WIP?, i'm checking out Robert Watson's ethercons > o - any great ideas? There are a couple of ports that seem to try to use IPMI. I haven't tried them yet though. (sysutils/freeipmi and sysutils/ipmitool). I can tell you that being about to do serial over ethernet (and possibly power cycling) would be incredibly handy. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology A lost ounce of gold may be found, a lost moment of time never. ------------------------------------------------------------------------