From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 31 16:20:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D952216A41C for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:20:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B161E43D1F for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:20:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=roam.psg.com) by rip.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dd9Ts-00095d-C2; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:20:40 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=roam.psg.com.psg.com) by roam.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dd9Tr-0000QN-4u; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:20:39 -1000 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17052.36566.644611.859335@roam.psg.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 06:20:38 -1000 To: FreeBSD Current Subject: strange environmental issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:20:41 -0000 thinkpad t41 current updating twice a day gnome, all ports current last week i was whining about dumpless system reboots every hour or three. well, i now believe it to be an environmental, possibly net stack, issue. when i was seeing the issue(s) was when the laptop was in a hotel room in florida (don't ask). the minute i escaped and hit t-mo at a red rug in o'hare, and everywhere i have been since, no problems. now back home in hawi, no problem. but, why i write is that there was a possibly associated problem which i did not report. when i was in the bad environment, my browser would lock up when it tried to load more than one page at the same time. i normally have a browser in a virt desktop with four windows each window with three to six tabs. if i tried to start this way, it locked up in start, with about two pages loaded and the rest infinitely spinning. if i started an empty browser and opened three tabs and tried to load pages into them, same lockup. my normal browser is galeon, but i also had the same problem testing in epiphany and pure moz. while i don't like to pre-guess bugs, the following thought has been in my mind. what if the hotel's (free) ether service was somewhat sick and not letting tcp sessions progress normally if there were too many running simultaneously? what if the -current stack has a race, buffer, mutex, ... issue? well, i am already too far into conjecture. but i thought this worth reporting in case it tickles a mind better than mine. randy