From nobody Sat May 23 15:58:00 2026 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gN6Hl0bsDz6flN0 for ; Sat, 23 May 2026 15:58:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mgm51.net (oneyou.mgm51.net [IPv6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "oneyou.mgm51.net", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gN6Hk2NQfz3xss for ; Sat, 23 May 2026 15:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=mgm51.com header.s=mgm51.com-10 header.b=IQgImCXP; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=mgm51.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of the.lists@mgm51.com designates 2607:f2f8:af30::100 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=the.lists@mgm51.com Received: from sentry.mgm51.net (sentry.mgm51.net [IPv6:2001:558:6017:e3:c493:60c6:f5f4:97a3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519) (Client CN "sentry.mgm51.net", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gN6HY3NgRzHh4X for ; Sat, 23 May 2026 11:58:01 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mgm51.com; s=mgm51.com-10; t=1779551881; bh=XVxQWwgVkLfqEAJspkaLZQEJvH0E5PEdBxR2BA0Avqs=; h=Date:Subject:From; b=IQgImCXPEechayuQRyx86BqrJWP8akrwR2FT65v269Uyc2yuzznC6JUXrn7KVCpQb 3b7ehZ6lj3ENgafH5fjKw0yrUjx3ux9KIwsqH0RQ2MAtfaVkKey++3ebsjExo+2gIN vWWEJC4Aq9meXSXeUT3WM+HYFBBv91lckbTKsPKRTjgFKLYNZl7MnezdlNE5lkpRWy 16EY4asrrJwT3yURHcVMAuryw76Azw14OWos31liHuZA13OZfgqjbmcGS9AY+y0S3U FOSV9k4XTf869mXRm4wwzzKuCMi6gVtXPhx1AivK7YleMdh9zQQnXVhTBjX8PlLRvA Ur90jqXivltlw== Received: from [10.11.2.100] (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.11.2.100]) by sentry.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gN6HX3d6sz11LkV for ; Sat, 23 May 2026 11:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0a8412c0-1cc5-4f4a-8446-a7f3d2788edd@mgm51.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 11:58:00 -0400 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Update for 14.3 when it is out of date - not pretty To: questions@freebsd.org References: <86wlwv6zjh.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Language: en-US From: Mike In-Reply-To: <86wlwv6zjh.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[mgm51.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mgm51.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgm51.com:s=mgm51.com-10]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:2607:f2f8::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgm51.com:+] X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gN6Hk2NQfz3xss I did not run freebsd-update upgrade. I ran "fetch" then "install" with no "upgrade". Perhaps that was my problem. I do agree that the message was poorly worded (imo, understatement). > what it's saying is that you need to upgrade > your ports or packages before running `freebsd-update install` Is that the regular procedure when using freebsd-update? i.e., ... freebsd-update fetch freebsd-update upgrade freebsd-update install ? The man page for freebsd-update says that "upgrade" is used when upgrading to a new release. It makes no mention of using "upgrade" when updating a current release. If I run it when I am doing an update for a current release, will it upgrade me to a new release? Thanks for the reply. On 5/22/2026 2:59 PM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > That message only appears after you run `freebsd-update upgrade`, then > run `freebsd-update install` once to upgrade the kernel, then run > `freebsd-update install` a second time to upgrade the userland. It's > somewhat poorly worded but what it's saying is that you need to upgrade > your ports or packages before running `freebsd-update install`