From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 17:55:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F229FAF0A9 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from bca5.email-od.com (bca5.email-od.com [207.246.239.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC1C886139 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1526061329; x=1528653329; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=xbUJPWEmtbPmU5CsVNNAOyl/B2y1OopKmHVUXF5rNh0=; b=qT3AlGU9uM4LizXeiJcZWmFvHEMMzaK9LyAZXKQ1JkwPKA6HEGVlzVme+A3r72okSyrZDmdqmvoVsPGkD0FWgG0DnVx7ey3/0IyscZnVPzo90VKwcKCoB+5gR2KbhYqrn+FVB2W1zJIRO2AnzpUwHNxxLRKyjXy2V6ejrlYJ7Ao= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi45YTAwMDAwMDEyYjNhYy5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.5.202.82]) by bca2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 11 May 2018 13:55:22 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 11 May 2018 13:55:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fHCGC-000GUl-49 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:55:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 18:55:16 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request for release engineering Message-Id: <20180511185516.a6d3829768130296180da9e8@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 17:55:26 -0000 On Fri, 11 May 2018 20:10:14 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: > Since bumping the version up using freebsd-update needs you to install > all packages afresh, it would appear to my naked eye that it never makes > sense to upgrade. Doing that is quite a quick operation if you have a good connection and a list of leaf packages to work from. > Exactly when does the upgrade via freebsd-update bring any real > advantage to the user ? I see one disadvantage in upgrading - things > don't work as smoothly/reliably as with a fresh installation. Even on major version bumps there's a whole bunch of configuration (system and ports) which can (usually - read UPDATING) be left untouched with freebsd-update but which has to be recreated or restoed from some kind of archive on a fresh installation. Minor version bumps and patch level increments are (usually) painless with freebsd-update, the latter often not even requiring a reboot just run service -R. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith