From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 06:15:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E63737B401 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 06:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from honolulu.procergs.com.br (honolulu.procergs.com.br [200.198.128.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6C143F85 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 06:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcelo-leal@procergs.rs.gov.br) Received: from ws-tor-0004.procergs (unknown [172.28.5.20]) by honolulu.procergs.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id D963AAAC1 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 10:15:37 -0300 (BRT) Received: by ws-tor-0004.procergs (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3395210214; Tue, 20 May 2003 10:15:37 -0300 (BRT) Received: from procergs.rs.gov.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ws-tor-0004.procergs (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D42210213 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 10:15:37 -0300 (BRT) From: omestre@freeshell.org To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:15:31 -0300 Sender: marcelo-leal@procergs.rs.gov.br Message-Id: <20030520131537.3395210214@ws-tor-0004.procergs> Subject: production... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 13:15:42 -0000 Hello, Many of us must have problems with unix like production servers, many services running, and administrative jobs. Where i'm working, there are the experiences with Mainframes and his controlled environment. All tasks were defined, and well defined. The operator tasks were defided too, without talk about security level... Well, what i want? So, i want to know, if somebody knows about projects (sourceforge), or comercial ones, that are trying fix that problem in unix plataform. Production scheduler. i guess that many aspects about this problem, can be resolved using scripts, and dialogs (menus). But, we have the internet, and nothing is created... is changed and shared. We are thinking about implement some (bash, tcl or perl) scripts to give to unix like operating sistems, the face of a trust environment. No, no... i know that the unix is stable, and i trust it... i talk about "operation". A environment to "add" sites, mana- ging mail, dns and so on... I am not talking about "webmin". I'm talking about, "maybe", scripts to "jail" the operator in his job. I'm talking about administration tasks that we are making every day, but without a environment to this. A framework to be changed, shared, and no more command prompt. "Imagine" a server managed by menus, in diferent levels, but well structured. With functions, chances to edit file... Sorry by the english, and i hope that you can understand what i mean. Any answers will be cool. thanks, and sorry again. ---