From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 06:47:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 377AA78 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2015 06:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (mail-ie0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0E6D375 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2015 06:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iebtr6 with SMTP id tr6so17926512ieb.2 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 22:47:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=l6asfwkweDl+1EypHBZYrEAS+/4LtxA8mcZqCGUvxko=; b=XDOIziIRMjeuZ8cYdAF/BEL7gDeyTmjRTtO22hcZJEccGhPBuqC9K75RJjEintZ9bf VIwJGwqQOVO0CHf1TPG6GIBnkSHGuH3tfBKEBnk09a9K7SYlwWeNSirKh6jtk5i9AKt+ nrd1Jrd+pQnmRtWOzeQMoJwGdCTAwNEl/1XarHvaFaeKkmIiBWC04IFV6i2NN+QW1tNV yxQ4B+LujGjN6h4BhfVZf7LIdZUjMZco0zrpqMwdA34+qT8VvUIXKxpA1pAyEnZULSPP e9yTa2JsOkA+S2C5MPDN0HEvPL/bzKoPT0qitBnVfNRpvtZ98Wj9T9/wl0X3XWaDDn/F 4Nkg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.155.8 with SMTP id lg8mr5578979icc.43.1425710826416; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 22:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.117.143 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 22:47:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20150307040218.GB85984@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 01:47:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: www/nginx-devel Name Change From: Robert Simmons To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:47:07 -0000 Also, I don't believe that "bugs in new features" has the same meaning as "development". On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Robert Simmons wrote: > Here is a quote from the NGINX project: > > Which version should I use? > > In general, you should deploy the NGINX mainline branch at all times. > You may wish to use stable if you are concerned about possible impacts > of new features, such as incompatibility with third-party modules or > the introduction of bugs in new features. > > > From this and checking the source code repository here: > hg.nginx.org/nginx the development branch is "default". Perhaps the > -devel port should be tied to a specific date on the true development > branch? > > I am only interested in calling a spade a spade here to reduce > confusion. If the NGINX project called "mainline" "development" there > wouldn't be a problem. But it seems that this is a distinction that > FreeBSD has decided rather than using upstream terminology and > thinking. > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Sergey A. Osokin wrote: >> Hi Robert, >> >> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 04:52:58PM -0500, Robert Simmons wrote: >>> The port www/nginx-devel should really be renamed nginx-mainline. It >>> is definitely not the development branch as is explained by the >>> upstream project. Calling it devel may cause users to avoid using this >>> port over the www/nginx port. >>> >>> I have a detailed explanation of this in a bug report here: >>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196480 >>> >>> Does this seem logical? >> >> Objection. >> >> The nginx project basically provides two versions of nginx: stable and mainline. >> New releases of the stable version contains bug and security fixes. >> The mainline usually introduces a bugs in a new features. This is why it has been >> marked with '-devel' suffix. >> >> For stable version FreeBSD ports tree historycally uses the same name as a software >> product has been named by author, for development version with '-devel' prefix. >> >> Also, I see no reason why user may cause to avoid using the www/nginx-devel port. >> Think it's always up to user to use or not to use any port from FreeBSD ports tree >> as well as FreeBSD operating system. >> >> -- >> Sergey A. Osokin >> osa@FreeBSD.org