From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Apr 24 19:32:22 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA06885 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:32:22 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA06872 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:32:11 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id TAA03838; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:32:00 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199504250232.TAA03838@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Gating hackers into the newsgroups To: gary@wcs.uq.oz.au (Gary Roberts) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9504250101.AA15300@wcs.uq.edu.au> from "Gary Roberts" at Apr 25, 95 11:01:25 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2985 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 1. I agree to act as a `registration point' for willing `lurkers'. If you The one thing I've dicovered about usenet.. Quantity counts.. many people only read a percentage of all messages. you need to post your request for assistants and your notice for newbies, once a week at least..... I've been thinking about this myself... If we can make this work it'll be really quite a turing point in FreeBSD's history.. > All jokes aside, I just wanted to make it clear that the helpers list > would be very much open to all and not limited to one newbie at a time. > > 2. I would produce a suitable `announcement' of the service which would > be posted say once a month (or whatever). MORE MORE > > 3. I would receive all requests from newbies and send them a standard > acknowledgement, pointing out that their commitment would be to take > on a newbie themselves at the end of their `hand-holding' period. > If they agreed to the conditions, I would allocate them to a helper. I think 'commitment' is too strong a word.. and allow them to back out if they think they don't know enough..... > > 4. At the end of the hand-holding period (how long do people feel this > should be??) the newbie name would be transferred automatically to > the bottom of the helper list and they would be automatically given > the next newbie. not automatically... automatically send email asking that they volunteer.... :) > > 5. Helpers can withdraw at any time *after* handling 1 newbie. This > would be the basic minimum commitment of a helper/ex-newbie. helpers should be allowed to sign up to the "helper needs trainer-wheels" helper-helper list. :) > > 6. I would try to do this `by hand' unless some scripting expert could > come up with some automated scheme to handle it. hmm sounds like an ideal script application to me.... The main thing I want to say is that you are going to have to make a LOT OF NOISE on usenet.. people need to see this sort of thing 3 or four times before they repond (or volunteer) In conjunction with the gating question, I think this is a step in teh right direction.. gating 'questions' to USENET is vitally important, and I think gating hackers ONE WAY (i.e not saying where it came from) is also important so people can see what advanced developers are working on.. (and they can tell their friends etc.) this is Very Important! > > Gary Roberts (gary@wcs.uq.edu.au) (Ph +617 844 0400 Fax +617 844 0444) > 4th Floor, South Bank House, 234 Grey St, South Bank QLD 4101 Australia. "don't you , just don't you worry yourself about THAT" julian +----------------------------------+ ______ _ __ | __--_|\ Julian Elischer | \ U \/ / On assignment | / \ julian@ref.tfs.com +------>x USA \ in a very strange | ( OZ ) 300 lakeside Dr. oakland CA. \___ ___ | country ! +- X_.---._/ USA+(510) 645-3137(wk) \_/ \\ v