From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 7 19:29:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1371916A4CE for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:29:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6EBC43D39 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:29:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.59.3.210?) (wyoming?antelope@63.164.80.82 with plain) by smtp014.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2004 19:29:26 -0000 Message-ID: <418E7793.5020908@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 12:29:23 -0700 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <418A53E5.40404@yahoo.com> <44mzxu6g00.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <418DC569.2060106@yahoo.com> <44pt2p63zw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44pt2p63zw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Naming confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:29:27 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: >Lloyd Hayes writes: > > > >> >don't worry about it. >> >>With XFree86, it is an issue. >>It appears that Xorg won't configure correctly without it. Although I >>won't swear that's the problem with Xorg. >> >> > >If you describe the actual symptoms you're seeing, someone might be >able to help. > > > >> >Unless you're trying to have someone outside reach your machine (as >>opposed to vice versa), you might as well just use whatever name the >>ISP you're currently connected to tries to give you. >> >>Uhhhh, The computer with FBSD on it has not been connected to the >>Internet since last winter, when it had Win 98SE on it. I'm a truck >>driver who carries two computers in the truck with me, and seem to be >>collecting more older computers at home in Wyoming. In the truck, I >>always have one computer turned on. I get my loads over the Internet, >>get most of my news over the Internet, keep truck records, do my legal >>logbook, and keep in touch with my daughters who live in Europe, and >>learn about FreeBSD all with a laptop computer. The fact of the matter >>is that I can not even work without a working computer. >> >> > >I can't even tell from that paragraph whether you want the FreeBSD >machine to be Internet-connected or not. If you don't, then just pick >any old name for the machine (preferably with a non-existent top-level >domain), stick that name into rc.conf as 'hostname', and add it to >/etc/hosts as well (for 127.0.0.1). > >E.g., > rc.conf could have >hostname="lloyd-freebsd.private" > and hosts could have >127.0.0.1 localhost lloyd-freebsd.private > > > >>Since many of the processes running on FreeBSD require a 'named' >>computer, I need to know how to handle this. Otherwise, as it says in >>"The Complete FreeBSD" book, there will be processes which will not >>run, or else they will not run correctly on my computer. The answer to >>this problem does not seemed to be addressed while using 'dhclient' in >>any of the printed information that I could find. >> >> > >If you're running DHCP, then you could just have dhclient set the >system name. I do something like this on my own laptop, but I haven't >got access to it at the moment. Basically I just had one of the >dhclient "hooks" scripts set the machine's hostname to whatever DHCP >had just assigned. Something like: > >if [ "x${new_host_name}" = "x" ] ; then > hostname ${new_host_name} >fi > >If you want to be able to go offline without rebooting, you would need >a little more tinkering -- probably an entry in pccard.conf resetting >your hostname when you remove the modem card would do that. > > > ---------------------------- Do I want to connect this machine to the Internet? Yes, as a client. Have I been able to connect this machine to the Internet using FreeBSD? No Conditions for Internet Access: WiFi 802.11 b or g wireless at different locations all across the USA. No regular access location or service, and no land line. Other considerations: External (CD-Burner-DVD Roms, Hard Drives, Scanners, Printers, Cameras, Video - Audio - Multimedia Devices, Modems, WiFi cards, Port Adapters, Touch Tablets w/mice, Keyboards, mice, etc.) These devices are all external from the laptops. One problem or another always comes up. Right now, I'm dealing with this naming issue. Xorg is a problem which seems to come under the heading of New Technology. I'll stick with XFree86. Xorg is now off of this computer. Lloyd Hayes Email: lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590