From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 21:07:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA8D16A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9A243D99 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1030137nzf for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q0v5GRaEZMF8HFlXkdKR2JEywRvONd5A0mCNZmN6e9Eqccna1zaEntXqFsE+UzTfCp2jpNinSwT/08iHvyc7KEIhL/AgzpqTIjSAvzE6Qys0Nd11kHTniObab8tlDXnp1mWkhiusu51gAsO3tjASLERE22si8GEPmlCKiD6MlXs= Received: by 10.36.12.2 with SMTP id 2mr846198nzl; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.2.19 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9e46c99e050506140757082176@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:07:11 -0400 From: Tomas Quintero To: Fafa Hafiz Krantz In-Reply-To: <20050506102422.A309C4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050506102422.A309C4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: chat@freebsd.org cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Want a logo competition? Do it properly. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 21:07:15 -0000 On 5/6/05, Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: >=20 > Hey! >=20 > I believe that the FreeBSD Project -- representing an open and > democratic rule and not a totalitarian power -- should allow its > users to decide what logo would be best suited. Hence, it would > be in the best interest for the future of this project to put > all logo submissions up for public display. This display should > be complimented by a voting system. >=20 > It is very important to get things right from the start. Look at > the NetBSD Project and their new logo for instance. The public > expressed great discontent about it, but only after the logo had > sunken deep into the cycles of production and the mentalities > of its contributors. >=20 > Even though designers do this for free (and I am sure most act > out of their love for the system and not because of the reward), > the framework of their profession should still apply. That is, a > contract protecting their rights from malicious intentions. >=20 > The FreeBSD Project should acknowledge that the elected designer > is entitled some say in the redesign of FreeBSD's website. Its > coders would most likely not know the first thing about design, > and hence compromise FreeBSD's image and its potential as > conceived by the designer. If the website design also should be > staged as a competition, it would be in the best interest of the > project to let the identity designer cooperate with the website > designer on the final outcome. >=20 > We all want what is best for FreeBSD. > Having said that, there should be no reason to fight over this. >=20 > A working design contract in need of modification: > http://www.aiga.org/resources/Content/1/4/6/documents/AIGA_contract.pdf >=20 > -- >=20 > Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Research Designer @ http://www.bleed.no > Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=3Dfreebsd-questions&m=3D111537599232346&w= =3D2 I would refer you to this address Fafa, prior to posting on the lists continually. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=3D111537605900001&r=3D1&w=3D2 Perhaps that one, for the entire story. --=20 -Tomas Quintero