From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 18 7:59:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E287837B401 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.r.caley.org.uk (pc-62-31-72-193-ed.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.72.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD1143E88 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjc@caley.org.uk) Received: from pele.r.caley.org.uk (pele.r.caley.org.uk [10.0.0.12]) by mail.r.caley.org.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAIFx550033026; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:59:05 GMT (envelope-from rjc@caley.org.uk) Received: from pele.r.caley.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pele.r.caley.org.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAIFx4mI027202; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:59:05 GMT (envelope-from rjc@pele.r.caley.org.uk) Received: (from rjc@localhost) by pele.r.caley.org.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAIFx4BO027201; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:59:04 GMT (envelope-from rjc) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:59:04 GMT Message-Id: <200211181559.gAIFx4BO027201@pele.r.caley.org.uk> From: Richard Caley Subject: Re: -STABLE was stable for long time (Re: FreeBSD: Server or DesktopOS?) To: Lefteris Tsintjelis In-Reply-To: Lefteris Tsintjelis's message of Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:27:23 +0200 References: <3DD906DB.5591BF01@ene.asda.gr> X-Dragon: Orm Embar Organisation: Golden Order of the Wienerschnitzel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I think the answer is obviously, long time testing and monitoring. > But you can have a -STABLE that is reliable and *critical* patches are > applied quickly. I believe that this is what mostly this thread is about. I refer the honourable gentleman to his above comment `long time testing and monitoring'. How can you have patches applied quickly and also have long time testing necessary to assure everyone that it is not going to break somethign way-over-there. That is my understanding of the difference between RELEASE and STABLE. Releases have intensive testing as an integrated whole. Of course it all comes down to what is considered critical. The bind fixes went in quickly because they filled big holes in many instlations and are relatively isolated. A fix to somethign deep in ther kernel which is not biteing many people? ^_^ (O O) \_/@@\ \\~~/ ~~ - RJC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message