From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed May 13 16:40:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16186 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Wed, 13 May 1998 16:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16160 for ; Wed, 13 May 1998 16:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA00387; Thu, 14 May 1998 09:10:41 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980514091040.B320@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 09:10:40 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jason C. Wells" , FreeBSD-advocacy Subject: Re: Proposed Charter for -advocacy References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jason C. Wells on Wed, May 13, 1998 at 02:31:56PM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 May 1998 at 14:31:56 +0000, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Mr. Hubbard has been consistent in his calls for activity to back up > discussion. For a hodge podge of different people to be effective there > should be some degree of organization. > > The core enjoys a degree of organization; so should advocacy. > > In lay terms: Let's get our stuff together as a group. > > I propose a charter for -advocacy. This charter will serve to transform > -advocacy from a channel of communications (discussion part) about FreeBSD > to an organizational unit (activity part) _within_ FreeBSD, Inc. > > Let's make -advocacy officially recognized as the "FreeBSD Advocacy > Group". > > Before I propose any tenets (I have some in mind) let us first decide > whether there is interest in such a charter. If there is such an interest, > then we can begin the real discourse. > > I move that FreeBSD, Inc and its community membership begin the charter of > the "FreeBSD Advocacy Group". > > Does anyone second the motion? Sort of. The idea's good, but it seems to me that you're going about this in too formal a manner. FreeBSD is an anarchy, where people just do things. If the others like it, they say so, or at least shut up. If they don't, they shout them down. Now sure, it's a good idea to get some feedback before you go to a lot of trouble just to get shouted down. But I think the route to success here is to start up something and present it, rather than suggest starting up something. For example, a 10-line charter which can be sent to new subscribers would be a good place to start. Greg (in shouting-down mode :-) -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message