From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 14:24:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DCA106566C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from mail.digiware.nl (mail.ip6.digiware.nl [IPv6:2001:4cb8:1:106::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB058FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rack1.digiware.nl (localhost.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) by mail.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BCF153434; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:24:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.nl Received: from mail.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by rack1.digiware.nl (rack1.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0oEctqozXgiH; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:24:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:c02b:ce62:71ff:9cbc] (unknown [IPv6:2001:4cb8:3:1:c02b:ce62:71ff:9cbc]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81568153433; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:24:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E074109.1060500@digiware.nl> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:24:09 +0200 From: Willem Jan Withagen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <4E0674ED.5090502@digiware.nl> <4BF3C5A181754319A7A83BE40F321E29@multiplay.co.uk> <4E0719EF.4060403@digiware.nl> <6049DAF547274E10A11C66936374E878@multiplay.co.uk> <4E0723D2.8050706@digiware.nl> <20110626130225.GA7164@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20110626130225.GA7164@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Steven Hartland Subject: Re: arcmsr panic runnig 8.2 of 2011 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:24:06 -0000 On 26-6-2011 15:02, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 02:19:30PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >> On 26-6-2011 13:50, Steven Hartland wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willem Jan Withagen" >>> >>>> Well the main key to the problem is that on 2011/06/06 the new version >>>> from Areca got imported. So if you have all your boxes with kernels >>>> predating 06-06, you're not running the new code. >>>> >>>> It the above is true and if you have a spare/development box, it would >>>> be interesting to see if a very recent 8.2-STABLE would work. >>>> >>>> But thanx for giving me a reference point. >>> >>> Ahh when you said 8.2 that infers release not stable which is 8-stable >>> in my mind. >>> >>> So to clarify all our machines are running 8.2-release with a few minor >>> imports from stable to fix local issues such as the updated ixgbe driver. >>> >>> I don't have a box I can use to test stable I'm afraid sorry. >> >> Hi Steven, >> >> My sense is more or less the other way around. 8.2 would feel like >> 8.2-stable, and only release when specifcally marked so. >> But then that's probably where one is coming from. I always run >> non-RELEASE version. >> >> Too bad, I only have one controller and it is in active use.... >> I'd otherwise build a clean system. >> >> But then use this as a point of attention, once you want to proceed from >> release into stable.... > > I would strongly recommend (to both of you) of referring to things by > either full version string (e.g. 8.2-RELEASE or 8.2-STABLE), or > alternatively by release tag (e.g. RELENG_8_2 or RELENG_8). The "x.y" > nomenclature hasn't ever sufficed. > > Regardless of what convention you go with, always remember to include > your kernel/world build date (the date shown in "uname -a" is usually > sufficient as long as you haven't done something nonsensical like > rebuilding kernel and not world). This is *especially* important when > reporting issues with RELENG_8 (8.2-STABLE), because MFC's happen all > the time, case in point. > Jeremy, You are absolutely correct. Being an old fart on these lists I should have known better. However the kernel is not running, so getting things as an afterthought is rather hard. Since it is my fileserver, I need it to be up to do most sensible work. Greping the kernel gives: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #117: Fri Jun 24 06:28:46 CEST 2011 --WjW