Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:24:09 +0200 From: Willem Jan Withagen <wjw@digiware.nl> To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk> Subject: Re: arcmsr panic runnig 8.2 of 2011 Message-ID: <4E074109.1060500@digiware.nl> In-Reply-To: <20110626130225.GA7164@icarus.home.lan> References: <4E0674ED.5090502@digiware.nl> <4BF3C5A181754319A7A83BE40F321E29@multiplay.co.uk> <4E0719EF.4060403@digiware.nl> <6049DAF547274E10A11C66936374E878@multiplay.co.uk> <4E0723D2.8050706@digiware.nl> <20110626130225.GA7164@icarus.home.lan>
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On 26-6-2011 15:02, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 02:19:30PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >> On 26-6-2011 13:50, Steven Hartland wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willem Jan Withagen" <wjw@digiware.nl> >>> >>>> Well the main key to the problem is that on 2011/06/06 the new version >>>> from Areca got imported. So if you have all your boxes with kernels >>>> predating 06-06, you're not running the new code. >>>> >>>> It the above is true and if you have a spare/development box, it would >>>> be interesting to see if a very recent 8.2-STABLE would work. >>>> >>>> But thanx for giving me a reference point. >>> >>> Ahh when you said 8.2 that infers release not stable which is 8-stable >>> in my mind. >>> >>> So to clarify all our machines are running 8.2-release with a few minor >>> imports from stable to fix local issues such as the updated ixgbe driver. >>> >>> I don't have a box I can use to test stable I'm afraid sorry. >> >> Hi Steven, >> >> My sense is more or less the other way around. 8.2 would feel like >> 8.2-stable, and only release when specifcally marked so. >> But then that's probably where one is coming from. I always run >> non-RELEASE version. >> >> Too bad, I only have one controller and it is in active use.... >> I'd otherwise build a clean system. >> >> But then use this as a point of attention, once you want to proceed from >> release into stable.... > > I would strongly recommend (to both of you) of referring to things by > either full version string (e.g. 8.2-RELEASE or 8.2-STABLE), or > alternatively by release tag (e.g. RELENG_8_2 or RELENG_8). The "x.y" > nomenclature hasn't ever sufficed. > > Regardless of what convention you go with, always remember to include > your kernel/world build date (the date shown in "uname -a" is usually > sufficient as long as you haven't done something nonsensical like > rebuilding kernel and not world). This is *especially* important when > reporting issues with RELENG_8 (8.2-STABLE), because MFC's happen all > the time, case in point. > Jeremy, You are absolutely correct. Being an old fart on these lists I should have known better. However the kernel is not running, so getting things as an afterthought is rather hard. Since it is my fileserver, I need it to be up to do most sensible work. Greping the kernel gives: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #117: Fri Jun 24 06:28:46 CEST 2011 --WjW
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