From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 21 09:47:39 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA28261 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 09:47:39 -0800 Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.216]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA28255; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 09:47:38 -0800 Received: (from kargl@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA14482; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 09:40:39 -0800 From: Steven G Kargl Message-Id: <199503211740.JAA14482@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Problems with 2940 and 950210snap To: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 09:40:38 -0800 (PST) Cc: julian@tfs.com, phk@ref.tfs.com, fbsd@clem.systemsix.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org, moto@CS.cmu.edu, tinguely@plains.nodak.edu In-Reply-To: <21330.795796754@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 21, 95 06:39:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1498 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Jordan K. Hubbard: > > > if we distributed the 'st' utility like we should, > > you could run > > > > st -f /dev/nrst0 status > > > > and we could see the mode the device was operating in. > > that would tell us a lot about the possible causes.. > > then you can use the scsi(1) or is that scsi(8) command > > to turn on debugging on the tape > > and see what it's being asked to do..... > > scsi(8) is in current, > > I include st(1) here so you can try it out > > it should be in the source tree (next to mt(1)) but appears to be missing.. > > I was under the impression that we were going to merge st and mt together, > and that this was the reason for not bringing st over in the first place. I was under the impression that st was removed from 2.0-RELEASE because of the impending merge. It is a rather dubious practice to remove a very useful utility from the tree because its features will someday be superceded by another utility. st is sorely missed. > Two tape frobbing commands does strike me as more than a little silly, > and `mt' is the historical standard. Actually, there are three tape commands mt, st, and ft. If st is eliminated on historical grounds, then ft should also suffer the same fate. -- Steven G. Kargl | Phone: 206-685-4677 | Applied Physics Laboratory | Fax: 206-543-6785 | University of Washington |---------------------| 1013 NE 40th St | FreeBSD 2.1-current | Seattle, WA 98105 |---------------------|