From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 08:50:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EEE106564A; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BBE8FC0A; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564F96B10; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3714C8742; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:50:04 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Jos Backus References: <4F14E291.5090803@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:50:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Jos Backus's message of "Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:41:15 -0800") Message-ID: <86mx9msog3.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Importing djb's public domain daemontools? X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:50:05 -0000 Jos Backus writes: > If FreeBSD had a solid solution out of the box, all this pidfile hackery = in > the base system wouldn't be necessary. I always thought FreeBSD was about > good engineering. Perpetuating the pidfile mess in the base is not a sign > of good engineering. Software written by DJB hardly qualifies as "good engineering". PID files are well-known and well-tested, we have a solid implementation with a simple API (pidfile(3)), and a lot of our infrastructure depends on them (/etc/rc, newsyslog etc.) DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no