From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Aug 25 14:44:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A89108CBB4 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04297732E3 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id e12-v6so9375383iok.12 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 07:44:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OpYGGC+R1LuftSuW/bszaLdXQr0bSOI22lvul5ji3+A=; b=jWCniR4bLQyAwb2Zoso1jSm44bT86JnR0BDOGaw4CFkAbs1Kf+tUzCKW3zA/nW33f8 lTvZnkJ0MiB7nAo/EErbJjdKFgAyBkbeRZxOzh4G9XO60sH71HTpMzrUWc2aqC+gehi3 1JWdNJFdrZH7bY9/6KluI5FFS1IhonyBt2XOW4uqAgDHbwIkLoxli2TF6mQhwKmRK1Kd TcGPJLYw1P+jpf+HmrBs+A0YsegxVJDESNFm3YQYOf4uEvAgVHZHM3pggw4nMSxB7AJa XjXAPLboNGNeAsH1HHq2Sp76C7W28iChOQ4n6WgsnGY4DTSYxbgnyDi6bIahuex9BlCC QMOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OpYGGC+R1LuftSuW/bszaLdXQr0bSOI22lvul5ji3+A=; b=tDwDnUJtaliEFUNv/55Ml/0xc97t/oEvpP9rsenmMdIxYwP3rDrnHM0gSiq3yBbLjc hWauBtWN6nsIfNFeZoluPysJiP8e0gaUak55lAaaS18we4VxZm9o7DjY4XeMWDz37EKW u9UUiNspBjY4BHHuIH4lmPhNig/9JcbnsdXlwVwYEfcosee7DHJUpx0DnwCnQgyZh6Pq yKi2/oLPzDW66IuIAp8f89kVWbNTusbfsH9iss3kNCJjvvbJIM+9xXPxXTTjTwR0G4UM eiNdZQnK5iwcYtWdk9qhtm047IqBjXsUrWZRHnBqAQRY189UM5zeidcbBgh9KcHZxtSc 6z4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BaG5a+ZB8gPLOXJ9Cl5ky0dpwsXwzRrjLBZyen9NavDAn3YVcQ KJvBmGpCk+akHJMj8RRaE7U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZCvkOcZngbLkJ8EoWojoLJqx+s2Qk0j0gA6es/tBx24tF5NTaydqfPi2W7QcBqbf5VVPKymw== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:9108:: with SMTP id t8-v6mr4764465iod.260.1535208257221; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 07:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.7] (cpe-65-25-48-31.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g25-v6sm1762250iti.31.2018.08.25.07.44.15 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Aug 2018 07:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5B816B3E.6070903@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 10:44:14 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass CC: Norman Gray , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Jails and networks References: <6B17F10B-F3AE-45C5-8011-EBE52462230E@glasgow.ac.uk> <702BA4E1-A1D1-4120-866D-755CB2C76143@glasgow.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:44:18 -0000 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Norman Gray wrote: >> Alejandro, hello. >> >> Thanks for your further comments. >> > > [...] > >>> There's been some >>> friction over the years and I sided with Dirk and continue to use >>> ezjail. >> >> That's also very useful to know. As with all of these things, it'd be >> interesting to know more about the grounds and nature of the split, but >> that's not always easy to find. >> > > IIRC it seemed at the time that qjail had shamelessly stolen ezjail > source to scaffold their product and claimed original authorship. I > think there have been many flame wars in this respect and should not > be that hard to find references. > As I recall, qjail is the result of some Filipino IT students who forked ezjail as a script coding assignment. They had no idea about open source software license issues. Not knowing better, they took ezjail to be open source and since most of the script was rewritten they put their own free license on it. When it was pointed out by users that qjail needed to give credit to the original author of the forked ezjail. This was done right away. There was never any intention to steal anything. Just a bunch of students trying to do something to give back to the FreeBSD community who made a simple mistake.