From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Tue Jan 1 19:16:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1629D1425AC9 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2019 19:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E945B823BD for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2019 19:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: by sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 12AC71604A; Tue, 1 Jan 2019 20:16:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:16:27 +0100 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components Message-ID: <20190101191627.AFSkb%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <201901011704.x01H44OS090017@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201901011704.x01H44OS090017@fire.js.berklix.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.11-123-g49d1a5c2 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E945B823BD X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of steffen@sdaoden.eu designates 217.144.132.164 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=steffen@sdaoden.eu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.03 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.85)[-0.854,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.63)[-0.627,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sdaoden.eu]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.83)[0.826,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: sdaoden.eu]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15987, ipnet:217.144.128.0/20, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2019 19:16:10 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote in <201901011704.x01H44OS090017@fire.js.berklix.net>: |I'm against rust being imported into src/, wasting hard bought |space & build time. Src/ is still too big, (& obj/ monstrous compared |to old days (clang I spose, shrug)), even though we've suffered |much disruption, things being ripped out of src/ supposedly to save |[sometime little] space. Let's not squander that hard bought space & time. And not to forget the base system as such. Just last week (or the end of the week before that) i have tried to use the address sanitizer on a freshly installed 11.2 i386 FreeBSD. No (result unbelievable). Because of my very limited download budget i had to choose what i could download next to get a working installation, and have chosen to go for ArchLinux (even though i never had a workign memory sanitizers there, but address sanitizer i have used there many times) December/2018 and do the upgrade with all the stuff (still one GB+). I was right (in that it was not my fault). --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)