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Date:      Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:04:15 -0400
From:      Larry Sica <lomifeh@earthlink.net>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>, ulf@Alameda.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Verisign, Thawte, Entrust, whom?
Message-ID:  <E9E27806-E5D7-11D6-ABF5-000393A335A2@earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20021021195034.02b20c70@localhost>

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On Monday, October 21, 2002, at 09:53 PM, Brett Glass wrote:

> At 03:24 PM 10/21/2002, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
>
>> Ulf, I happened to google far enough to hit
>> "GeoTrust," and will be looking hard at
>> that ... less than half of VeriSign...that is,
>> unless I can figure out what Brett DOES
>> do in this regard... :-)
>
> Well, it's hard to imagine that having a certificate
> from Verisign would engender any real trust. After
> all, they're a would-be monopolist, are under
> investigation for mail fraud, and have ripped off
> tens of thousands of domain name registrants for
> years.
>

Ok, what about all the other SSL cert providers?  When Ma Bell was 
found to be a monopoly did you stop using the phone?

> We just warn users that a window will pop up, and
> tell them that by accepting our certificate they'll
> be assured of secure communications with us in the
> future. It works.
>

Doesn't this kind of defeat the purpose to a degree of using 
certificates.  One wants a third party CA so people will be able to 
trust your site.  Personally if I get that warning I won't use the site 
because I do not know if they are who they say they are.

To get a cert you need proof that your company is who it says it is and 
that is it a legal company.  It is not just some schlep saying I want 
to buy one.


--Larry


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