From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 12 08:53:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13143 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phmit.demon.co.uk (phmit.demon.co.uk [194.222.15.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13138 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dom@phmit.demon.co.uk) Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk [10.100.35.12] by phmit.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zSkHq-0004KU-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:53:30 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zSkHe-0000HS-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:53:18 +0100 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group cc: Igor Roshchin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syslogd and syslog.conf X-Mailer: nmh v0.26 X-Colour: Green Organization: Palmer & Harvey McLane In-reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group's message of "Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:21:49 PDT" <199810121421.HAA22643@cwsys.cwsent.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:53:18 +0100 From: Dom Mitchell Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 October 1998, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group proclaimed: > > Hello! > > > > Those who are reading freebsd-security, already saw this. > > For others, briefly: > > There was a question and few followups about the syslogd > > which doesn't allow to have spaces between the first and the second > > field in /etc/syslog.conf . > > (this is a feature of syslogd in some (or all ?) other Unices). > > Only s are allowed. > > Having had a chance to think about this, I think that a modification of > this nature, which would make syslogd somewhat incompatible, e.g. not > the same as, syslogd's on other UNIX systems, a name change should also > be considered. In keeping with tradition, this new syslogd should be > called nsyslogd. Sadly, this is exactly the reason that sun systems still have /usr/bin/awk as a useless pile of junk and /usr/bin/nawk as the useful option for those who want it. Ditto for their out of date Korn shell. As a freely available operating system, we have a lot more flexibility than commercial vendors and we should use that flexibility to innovate. There is a *lot* of stuff in FreeBSD that is better than the ``standard unix'' equivalent. I for one would be happy to see syslogd fixed in this manner. Particularly as the proposed added functionality is totally backwards compatible within FreeBSD. Provided that we note the addition well in the release notes & man pages, I feel that this change should go ahead. -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "Xerox studies suggest that most people print out electronic mail that is longer than half a page; paper use rises by 40 percent in offices that introduce E-mail." -- CCM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message