From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG  Mon Aug  6 02:07:08 2007
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0074B16A420
	for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Mon,  6 Aug 2007 02:07:07 +0000 (UTC)
	(envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com)
Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85])
	by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67CB13C457
	for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Mon,  6 Aug 2007 02:07:07 +0000 (UTC)
	(envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l7624txl019492;
	Sun, 5 Aug 2007 20:04:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com)
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:05:06 -0600 (MDT)
Message-Id: <20070805.200506.-1264102835.imp@bsdimp.com>
To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, olli@lurza.secnetix.de
From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <200707231410.l6NEA6Do034748@lurza.secnetix.de>
References: <46A453A4.90008@gmx.de>
	<200707231410.l6NEA6Do034748@lurza.secnetix.de>
X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0
	(harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]);
	Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:04:56 -0600 (MDT)
Cc: 
Subject: Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing
X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, 
	<mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>,
	<mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:07:08 -0000

In message: <200707231410.l6NEA6Do034748@lurza.secnetix.de>
            Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de> writes:
: [LoN]Kamikaze <LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de> wrote:
:  > My original intention was just to say that openntpd works just out of the box,
:  > while ntpd doesn't.
: 
: That's just plain wrong.  ntpd _does_ work out of the box
: (unless your configuration is broken), and it seems to be
: more accurate than openntpd.
: 
: Demanding to replace ntpd with openntpd in the FreeBSD
: base system because you cannot get the configuration right
: is ridiculous.

Especially since my company builds stratum 1 ntp servers that get time
from GPS, Loran and Hp5071A cesium standards.

Warner