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Date:      Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:05:51 -0500
From:      Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>
To:        Kevin Day <kevin@your.org>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Syncookies break with Windows 8
Message-ID:  <CAPyFy2BF43X%2BKF0MCvQHNxatHzYoCSVCtQyJdxy2bSf0-4Mr3Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On 1 February 2013 16:21, Kevin Day <kevin@your.org> wrote:
> We've got a large cluster of HTTP servers, each server handling >10,000re=
q/sec. Occasionally, and during periods of heavy load, we'd get complaints =
from some users that downloads were working but going EXTREMELY slowly. Aft=
er a whole lot of debugging, we narrowed it down to being only Windows 8 cl=
ients experiencing this problem. It turns out that FreeBSD's implementation=
 of syncookies is likely violating RFC1323.

Kevin,

Thanks for the thorough analysis and report, although I didn't see
mention of which FreeBSD version you're running.  It looks like andre@
added storage of the window scale option in the timestamp many years
ago in r162277[1], so I'm curious if you have an old version or
there's an issue with this implementation.

> This implementation extends the orginal idea and first implementation
> of FreeBSD by using not only the initial sequence number field to store
> information but also the timestamp field if present.  This way we can
> keep track of the entire state we need to know to recreate the session in
> its original form.  Almost all TCP speakers implement RFC1323 timestamps
> these days.  For those that do not we still have to live with the known
> shortcomings of the ISN only SYN cookies.  The use of the timestamp field
> causes the timestamps to be randomized if syncookies are enabled.

-Ed

[1] http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3D162277



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