From owner-freebsd-security Thu Apr 18 19:47:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1157837B484 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25815; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 20:31:00 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook may make your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020418202335.0229b540@nospam.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@nospam.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 20:30:56 -0600 To: Ken McGlothlen From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip Cc: security@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <878z7k4oz9.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020418143615.021a8460@nospam.lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020418095356.024354c0@nospam.lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020417230144.032ad390@nospam.lariat.org> <200204171923.g3HJNga58899@freefall.freebsd.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020418095356.024354c0@nospam.lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020418143615.021a8460@nospam.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:32 PM 4/18/2002, Ken McGlothlen wrote: >C'mon, Brett, these last two objections are really stretching things. I don't think so. They're real pitfalls for administrators. As I've mentioned in other messages, what I think we need is the equivalent of the Japanese FreeBSD X.Y-RELEASE-pZ builds, on the main FTP server and on the mirrors, ready for installation both by new users and by admins looking to do a sure, safe upgrade. Having a local build server is a nice idea, especially if you're a large shop, but doesn't get newcomers a safe version to install (important; if they're hacked they'll sour on FreeBSD) or give an admin a build to which she can just upgrade quickly and know that the latest holes are closed. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message