From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 17 11:46:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (flutter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A295B37B6B0; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0HJk3Z54316; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:46:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Soren Schmidt , Randell Jesup , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: await/asleep removal imminent In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:52:26 PST." <20010117105226.V7240@fw.wintelcom.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:46:03 +0100 Message-ID: <54314.979760763@critter> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010117105226.V7240@fw.wintelcom.net>, Alfred Perlstein writes: >> > There has to be a way for you guys to get us some reasonable >> > tracebacks or diagnostics instead of just saying "it's broke". >> >> Its close to impossible, the two symptoms I see here are either >> spontanous reboots, or solid hangs where only a reset can get >> you out, so I cant say much other than "it's broke". > >You probably have a much better understanding of low level programming >than I do, you _should_ be able to figure out what's going on. Excuse me! There is no fucking way you guys can expect anybody else to be able to debug at the rate things are being changed right now. >> Hmm, with a -current kernel from today 1200 CET i just need to >> do a make depend on a GENERIC kernel, and wham it locks up. > >Odd, doesn't hang for me. "Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense". Remember that. >I think phk just told me that you need a UP kernel to find this, >but he's being pretty vague about it so I don't know. No I told you that I have not been able to reproduce this because my SMP boxes are too slow to matter. Or maybe because they have to few and too ancient disks. Or maybe because I don't have time to really give them a beating these days. I don't know. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message