From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 21:26:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5928F16A4AB; Sun, 27 May 2007 21:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088F213C4C2; Sun, 27 May 2007 21:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l4RLPqtU080904; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erik Trulsson" Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 14:27:22 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20070527100136.GA22579@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 27 May 2007 14:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bugs@freebsd.org, Garrett Cooper , questions@freebsd.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd?= Subject: RE: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. Allrights reserved. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 21:26:03 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Trulsson [mailto:ertr1013@student.uu.se] > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:02 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Garrett Cooper; Kyrre Nygård; bugs@freebsd.org; > questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. > Allrights reserved. > > > On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:38:33AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > Garrett Cooper > > > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:04 PM > > > To: Kyrre Nygård > > > Cc: bugs@freebsd.org; questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of > California. All > > > rights reserved. > > > > > > > > > Kyrre Nygård wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > Is it possible to change: > > > > > > > > Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. > > > > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, > 1992, 1993, 1994 > > > > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > > > reserved. > > > > > > > > Over to: > > > > > > > > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, > 1992, 1993, 1994 > > > > The Regents of the University of California. > > > > All rights reserved. > > > > > > > > If so, how is it done? > > > > > > > > To have `All rights reserved.' apply to both copyright > > > statements, it is necessary to break it down to the next line. It > > > would also look a whole lot neater, as the last number of `1994' > > > now aligns with the last letter of `reserved' using a monospaced > > > font, which ends up looking kind of weird. Trust me on this one. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Kyrre Nygård + mir-visuals.com + snoarc.no > > > > > > Now why would you want to do that? That's cutting FreeBSD > totally out of > > > the picture, which isn't correct since they're the copyright owners of > > > the FreeBSD project from 1992 to today. > > > > > > > Re-read what he said, Garrett: > > > > "To have `All rights reserved.' apply to BOTH copyright > > statements, it is necessary to break it down to the next line. > > > > Cutting FreeBSD out would leave ONE, not multiple, copyright lines. > > "BOTH" would not apply. He intended the first copyright line to > > remain, he just didn't print it. > > > > He is actually right, and it should be filed as a PR. Gramatically, > > right now the all rights reserved line does not apply to the > > first copyright line. > > > > Of course, to be really nitpicky, the (c) should be removed, because > > WTPO has already come out and stated that (c) isn't a valid copyright > > indicator, you must completely enclose the c in a circle. > > > As I understand it the phrase 'All rights reserved' was required by older > copyright rules but is obsolete these days. > I.e. changing the wording so that 'All rights reserved' applies to both > copyright statements is pointless since it does not have any legal > significance any more. > If that is the case then leaving it in is also pointless. Why don't you file a PR with the appropriate cites to the literature? Ted