From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 9 17:25:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6893B16A41F; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 17:25:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B047B43D48; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 17:25:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id DCA203B9C0; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:25:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j79HOioD002612; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:24:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j79HOiVR002611; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:24:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:24:44 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Ceri Davies , Jens Schweikhardt , src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050809172444.GA2274@schweikhardt.net> References: <200508081958.j78JwRMP046337@repoman.freebsd.org> <20050809093208.GJ55885@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050809093208.GJ55885@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/fortune/datfiles fortunes fortunes2-o X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 17:25:06 -0000 On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:32:08AM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: # On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 07:58:27PM +0000, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: # > schweikh 2005-08-08 19:58:27 UTC # > # > FreeBSD src repository # > # > Modified files: # > games/fortune/datfiles fortunes fortunes2-o # > Log: # > Move the Hitler quotes and some references to him to the "offensive" file. # # I object. References to Hitler are not inherently offensive. I assume there's no disagrrement about Hitler quotes being offensive. In Germany they are to almost everyone. So it's good to move them to the offensive list. Note, they're moved, NOT removed. Let me cite the three references I moved: [...] repeated the holy words, "Heil Hitler!" -- George Lincoln Rockwell % If you do this in Germany in public, you're breaking the law. Anyone calling the greeting "Holy words" is very likely to offend many people. I have no doubt about this quote's offensiveness. Moving it is 100% justified. Hitler used methods against white men in Europe, which by tacit agreement between the cultural European nations were only to be used against the coloured. -- Poul Henningsen [1894-1967] % This is clearly racist in my world. I have no doubt about this quote's offensiveness. Moving it is 100% justified. Roumanian-Yiddish cooking has killed more Jews than Hitler. -- Zero Mostel Comparing Roumanian-Yiddish cooking to what Hitler has done is ridiculing his victims. Comparisons like this in Germany have put many a politician out of office for offending many Jews and Germans as well. I have no doubt about this quote's offensiveness. Moving it is 100% justified. # Hiding from history is the reason why school children in Britain know that # the second World War was fought against the Nazis, but have no idea where # they came from. I hide nothing from history. I moved offensive quotes to a different file, so the easily offended (which includes myself sometimes) have a chance to read fortunes without quotes from and refs to the monster. I have now backed up my motives and explained the details. This will be my only reply in this thread. Please let it die. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped)