From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 16 12:57:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09850 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:57:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09845 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:57:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA75401; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <199812162105.NAA75401@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) In-Reply-To: <199812162006.NAA24553@mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Dec 16, 1998 1: 6:51 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) Cc: bs_13943_34262@adimus.de, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Nate Williams: > > A Fortran compiler has been part of the base system since FreeBSD 1.1.5. > > Because there was no easy way of breaking it out in the old days. > > > > I'm not sure if you don't understand the distinction between the base > > > system and the ports collection or don't want to accept the fact that > > > fortran isn't considered "basic" functionality these days anymore. > > > > I fully understand the difference. I'm suggesting the replacement > > of current inferior functionality with a superior solution. > > I think we should rip out the inferior solution and leave it out. > However, taking functionality out of FreeBSD is harder than adding new > functionality in. > > The existing code doesn't work well at all, and rather than bloat the > tree with something that is rarely used, we should just live with the > ability that it's easy to add Fortran to the base system as a package. > > > > All claimed advantages have absolutely nothing to do with the question > > > of placing your fortran compiler in the base system instead of a port. > > > > There is already a Fortran compiler in the base system. > > I'd argue (heck, I am arguing. :) that it should be removed. > Surprisingly, I would actually support this. -- Steve finger kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~clesceri/kargl.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message